1 00:00:04,039 --> 00:00:02,389 embrace yourself because you're about to 2 00:00:06,230 --> 00:00:04,049 dive into another free first hour 3 00:00:07,400 --> 00:00:06,240 episode of the higher side chats and we 4 00:00:08,810 --> 00:00:07,410 just want to let you know that whether 5 00:00:10,790 --> 00:00:08,820 you're looking for a companion through 6 00:00:12,410 --> 00:00:10,800 your paranoid insomnia entertaining 7 00:00:14,390 --> 00:00:12,420 yourself through one of life's mundane 8 00:00:16,099 --> 00:00:14,400 activities or trying to ward off the 9 00:00:18,710 --> 00:00:16,109 internal scream to all those sad 10 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:18,720 smothered Souls around the office THC is 11 00:00:22,130 --> 00:00:20,490 here and you should know that every 12 00:00:24,170 --> 00:00:22,140 episode of the higher side chats has an 13 00:00:26,540 --> 00:00:24,180 entire second hour four plus members 14 00:00:29,029 --> 00:00:26,550 sign up at the higher side chats plus 15 00:00:31,609 --> 00:00:29,039 calm and you get years of plus show 16 00:00:33,020 --> 00:00:31,619 archives lifetime forum access the 17 00:00:36,410 --> 00:00:33,030 special invite to Greg Carl woods 18 00:00:39,650 --> 00:00:36,420 monthly joint sessions mp3s of THC music 19 00:00:42,020 --> 00:00:39,660 and bonus episodes for videos and 10% 20 00:00:44,090 --> 00:00:42,030 off t-shirts grinders and whatever else 21 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:44,100 ends up in the higher side store it's 22 00:00:47,779 --> 00:00:45,450 eight dollars a month that you won't 23 00:00:49,729 --> 00:00:47,789 miss so become a plus member and treat 24 00:00:51,529 --> 00:00:49,739 yourself in these troubled times always 25 00:00:53,569 --> 00:00:51,539 action-packed and commercial for you 26 00:01:30,160 --> 00:00:53,579 which means you'll unfortunately never 27 00:01:35,060 --> 00:01:32,899 rock me like a hurricane higher side 28 00:01:36,740 --> 00:01:35,070 shatters from sunny San Diego I'm Greg 29 00:01:38,899 --> 00:01:36,750 Carl wood and if we've learned anything 30 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:38,909 over the years it's that the system will 31 00:01:43,850 --> 00:01:41,490 stop at nothing to keep power control 32 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:43,860 the narrative and silence anyone whose 33 00:01:48,710 --> 00:01:46,130 presence disrupts their game plan of 34 00:01:50,660 --> 00:01:48,720 course there are many examples we could 35 00:01:53,510 --> 00:01:50,670 look at but few have faced the wrath 36 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:53,520 like the late great well hem Reich not 37 00:01:58,969 --> 00:01:55,290 only did he discover what he called 38 00:02:01,520 --> 00:01:58,979 organ energy a glowing blue bio cosmic 39 00:02:04,999 --> 00:02:01,530 life energy that permeates from microbes 40 00:02:07,100 --> 00:02:05,009 plants animals and nature itself he also 41 00:02:09,499 --> 00:02:07,110 created devices like the organ 42 00:02:11,660 --> 00:02:09,509 accumulator that had major healing and 43 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:11,670 immune boosting effects as well as the 44 00:02:14,330 --> 00:02:13,890 cloudbuster which could manipulate the 45 00:02:17,180 --> 00:02:14,340 org 46 00:02:20,059 --> 00:02:17,190 energy in the air to cause rain or even 47 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:20,069 make a desert and not only that but he 48 00:02:25,340 --> 00:02:22,410 also noticed an increase in UFO activity 49 00:02:28,100 --> 00:02:25,350 during some cloudbuster trials wrote a 50 00:02:30,290 --> 00:02:28,110 book on that wrote a book on fascism and 51 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:30,300 spoke out frequently about the 52 00:02:35,479 --> 00:02:32,730 repressive society we are participating 53 00:02:37,699 --> 00:02:35,489 in as you might imagine Reich's work 54 00:02:39,590 --> 00:02:37,709 landed him in prison until the day he 55 00:02:42,100 --> 00:02:39,600 died and his books banned from 56 00:02:44,690 --> 00:02:42,110 interstate commerce and burned in mass 57 00:02:47,540 --> 00:02:44,700 one has to wonder if he was really just 58 00:02:49,640 --> 00:02:47,550 a crackpot and his work had no value why 59 00:02:52,100 --> 00:02:49,650 such effort to eradicate it when it 60 00:02:54,500 --> 00:02:52,110 could just die out on its own well 61 00:02:56,509 --> 00:02:54,510 luckily his work does live on today with 62 00:02:58,970 --> 00:02:56,519 the bright and bold folks willing to 63 00:03:01,309 --> 00:02:58,980 carry the torch and few are as dedicated 64 00:03:02,809 --> 00:03:01,319 or as knowledgeable as today's guests 65 00:03:04,790 --> 00:03:02,819 dr. James DeMaio 66 00:03:07,340 --> 00:03:04,800 James formerly studied the Earth 67 00:03:09,530 --> 00:03:07,350 atmospheric and environmental sciences 68 00:03:11,449 --> 00:03:09,540 at Florida International University and 69 00:03:16,190 --> 00:03:11,459 the University of Kansas where he earned 70 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:16,200 his PhD in 1986 at kayuu he openly 71 00:03:21,020 --> 00:03:18,450 undertook the first graduate level 72 00:03:22,430 --> 00:03:21,030 natural scientific research specifically 73 00:03:25,039 --> 00:03:22,440 focused on wilhelm reich s-- 74 00:03:27,500 --> 00:03:25,049 controversial discoveries subjecting 75 00:03:29,810 --> 00:03:27,510 those ideas to rigorous testing with 76 00:03:32,930 --> 00:03:29,820 positive verification of the original 77 00:03:35,180 --> 00:03:32,940 findings dr. DiMaio subsequently 78 00:03:37,569 --> 00:03:35,190 undertook drought-related field research 79 00:03:41,060 --> 00:03:37,579 in the arid American Southwest Egypt 80 00:03:43,009 --> 00:03:41,070 Israel and sub-saharan Africa his 81 00:03:45,410 --> 00:03:43,019 published works include dozens of 82 00:03:47,690 --> 00:03:45,420 articles and papers as well as several 83 00:03:50,180 --> 00:03:47,700 books like his newly expanded and 84 00:03:53,270 --> 00:03:50,190 revised edition of the organ accumulator 85 00:03:55,640 --> 00:03:53,280 handbook and his most recent release the 86 00:03:57,650 --> 00:03:55,650 dynamic ether of cosmic space 87 00:04:00,590 --> 00:03:57,660 correcting a major error in modern 88 00:04:03,259 --> 00:04:00,600 science of course such work has seen 89 00:04:05,569 --> 00:04:03,269 James blacklisted and ostracized from 90 00:04:07,690 --> 00:04:05,579 the inner circle of academia but the 91 00:04:10,039 --> 00:04:07,700 work continues on at the oregon 92 00:04:13,580 --> 00:04:10,049 biophysical research lab which he 93 00:04:15,229 --> 00:04:13,590 founded in 1978 well he certainly knows 94 00:04:16,759 --> 00:04:15,239 a thing or two about a thing or two and 95 00:04:19,219 --> 00:04:16,769 I'm psyched to have him here the 96 00:04:21,050 --> 00:04:19,229 suppressed science scientists the organ 97 00:04:23,810 --> 00:04:21,060 and ether Advocate and a bona fide 98 00:04:26,210 --> 00:04:23,820 first-hand cloudbuster James welcomed 99 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:26,220 the higher side well thank you Greg for 100 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:28,450 that glowing endorsement 101 00:04:34,350 --> 00:04:31,450 yes I try and I mean you've definitely 102 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:34,360 done some respectable work and I 103 00:04:37,890 --> 00:04:36,010 appreciate you being here been looking 104 00:04:40,770 --> 00:04:37,900 forward to this for a long time you were 105 00:04:43,470 --> 00:04:40,780 kind enough to send me signed copies of 106 00:04:46,110 --> 00:04:43,480 both the Oregon accumulator handbook and 107 00:04:48,690 --> 00:04:46,120 the dynamic ether of cosmic space very 108 00:04:50,580 --> 00:04:48,700 much appreciated love them both and I 109 00:04:52,950 --> 00:04:50,590 think the audience here is at least a 110 00:04:54,540 --> 00:04:52,960 little familiar with those terms but let 111 00:04:57,150 --> 00:04:54,550 me ask you about the relationship 112 00:05:00,120 --> 00:04:57,160 between them I've heard you call ether a 113 00:05:01,650 --> 00:05:00,130 sort of cosmic life energy and life 114 00:05:04,260 --> 00:05:01,660 energy is the term used to describe 115 00:05:05,910 --> 00:05:04,270 Oregon what differentiates these two 116 00:05:09,540 --> 00:05:05,920 energies from one another because they 117 00:05:12,180 --> 00:05:09,550 do seem pretty similar to a layman well 118 00:05:15,840 --> 00:05:12,190 both originated from completely 119 00:05:19,500 --> 00:05:15,850 different starting points the idea of 120 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:19,510 cosmic ether as a substrate in the 121 00:05:26,060 --> 00:05:21,970 universe for transmission of light waves 122 00:05:30,060 --> 00:05:26,070 that goes back to the 1700s actually the 123 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:30,070 necessity for a medium to explain the 124 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:33,250 wave nature of light so for example if 125 00:05:37,980 --> 00:05:35,170 you have sound waves they wave in the 126 00:05:41,070 --> 00:05:37,990 air if you have water waves they wave in 127 00:05:43,260 --> 00:05:41,080 the water so light has a distinctive set 128 00:05:45,870 --> 00:05:43,270 of wave properties it can be reflected 129 00:05:48,660 --> 00:05:45,880 refracted interfered interference you 130 00:05:51,180 --> 00:05:48,670 can make standing waves and so forth so 131 00:05:53,460 --> 00:05:51,190 what's the medium through which light is 132 00:05:56,570 --> 00:05:53,470 traveling that allows it to express 133 00:05:59,870 --> 00:05:56,580 these wave-like properties and that idea 134 00:06:03,290 --> 00:05:59,880 persisted all the way into the early 135 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:03,300 1900's when some of the first 136 00:06:08,220 --> 00:06:05,530 instruments optical instruments were 137 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:08,230 developed by which one could evaluate 138 00:06:14,490 --> 00:06:11,410 for the existence of the cosmic ether 139 00:06:17,190 --> 00:06:14,500 and the famous experiment of Michelson 140 00:06:19,110 --> 00:06:17,200 Morley everybody knows that's in all the 141 00:06:20,700 --> 00:06:19,120 textbooks and it the way it's described 142 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:20,710 in the textbooks is totally bogus 143 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:23,170 because they say Michelson Morley got a 144 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:25,810 negative result and therefore space is 145 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:28,690 empty and this brought in in the 146 00:06:34,260 --> 00:06:31,570 aftermath of that error in the early 147 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:34,270 textbooks it brought in a whole series 148 00:06:40,020 --> 00:06:36,970 of new theories such as Einstein's 149 00:06:41,950 --> 00:06:40,030 relativity the big bang theory ideas 150 00:06:44,379 --> 00:06:41,960 about black holes and 151 00:06:46,779 --> 00:06:44,389 that are very popular today or the 152 00:06:49,719 --> 00:06:46,789 dominant theories today are challenged 153 00:06:53,650 --> 00:06:49,729 at their basic foundational level by the 154 00:06:55,900 --> 00:06:53,660 existence of a cosmic ether on in fact 155 00:06:57,820 --> 00:06:55,910 Einstein wrote that's one of the the 156 00:07:00,339 --> 00:06:57,830 basic starting assumptions of his 157 00:07:03,460 --> 00:07:00,349 relativity theory is that the ether 158 00:07:05,529 --> 00:07:03,470 cannot exist at least material ether 159 00:07:06,370 --> 00:07:05,539 with properties that can be attributed 160 00:07:10,330 --> 00:07:06,380 to it 161 00:07:12,490 --> 00:07:10,340 by contrast the idea of life energy well 162 00:07:15,279 --> 00:07:12,500 first of all it's an ancient concept the 163 00:07:17,980 --> 00:07:15,289 idea of life energy almost every culture 164 00:07:21,460 --> 00:07:17,990 has some kind of a term about it you 165 00:07:24,010 --> 00:07:21,470 find all kinds of scientific experiments 166 00:07:27,029 --> 00:07:24,020 going back to Mesmer hanaman with 167 00:07:29,950 --> 00:07:27,039 homeopathy some aspects of early 168 00:07:32,830 --> 00:07:29,960 folklore and agriculture and so on speak 169 00:07:34,659 --> 00:07:32,840 about life energy and that living things 170 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:34,669 have their own specific biological 171 00:07:38,770 --> 00:07:36,770 energy and it's not something that's 172 00:07:41,529 --> 00:07:38,780 biochemical it's something that really 173 00:07:44,559 --> 00:07:41,539 is like a radiant energy field which has 174 00:07:48,670 --> 00:07:44,569 a powerful biological influence now 175 00:07:51,189 --> 00:07:48,680 Reich was unique in that he he did more 176 00:07:53,409 --> 00:07:51,199 research on this concept of life energy 177 00:07:55,960 --> 00:07:53,419 proving that it was a real thing a 178 00:07:59,709 --> 00:07:55,970 tangible experimentally demonstrated 179 00:08:02,760 --> 00:07:59,719 thing and much in the same way that the 180 00:08:06,580 --> 00:08:02,770 early ether experimenters in the early 181 00:08:09,070 --> 00:08:06,590 1900's they also got positive result but 182 00:08:11,709 --> 00:08:09,080 it was a small result it wasn't a huge 183 00:08:14,050 --> 00:08:11,719 result as everybody expected now 184 00:08:16,209 --> 00:08:14,060 michelson-morley detected an ether drift 185 00:08:18,339 --> 00:08:16,219 speed of that the earth was moving 186 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:18,349 through the ether of space and this 187 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:20,090 could be detected with these optical 188 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:22,610 interferometers and he detected a speed 189 00:08:28,390 --> 00:08:26,090 of something between or approaching five 190 00:08:30,790 --> 00:08:28,400 to seven point five kilometers per 191 00:08:33,339 --> 00:08:30,800 second now that's a pretty respectable 192 00:08:35,709 --> 00:08:33,349 speed if I said I had a an airplane that 193 00:08:38,019 --> 00:08:35,719 would move five or seven point five 194 00:08:41,620 --> 00:08:38,029 kilometers per second that would out out 195 00:08:44,050 --> 00:08:41,630 pace even the best high-performance Jets 196 00:08:47,050 --> 00:08:44,060 that are here today used various 197 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:47,060 militaries and later another scientist 198 00:08:51,819 --> 00:08:49,730 dayton miller who is a top research 199 00:08:53,980 --> 00:08:51,829 scientist of his day he was a mainstream 200 00:08:55,690 --> 00:08:53,990 guy he was the top of his field who 201 00:08:58,300 --> 00:08:55,700 president of the american 202 00:09:00,370 --> 00:08:58,310 optical society the American ku Stickle 203 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:00,380 Society member of the National Academy 204 00:09:05,530 --> 00:09:02,930 of Sciences and you know just on and on 205 00:09:06,910 --> 00:09:05,540 with all the awards and memberships that 206 00:09:09,610 --> 00:09:06,920 he had earned over the years for his 207 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:09,620 work he actually detected an eleven 208 00:09:16,090 --> 00:09:12,530 point five kilometre per second 209 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:16,100 III did so by going up high on a 210 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:18,850 mountain Mount Wilson specifically and 211 00:09:23,100 --> 00:09:21,530 the interesting thing was is that 212 00:09:25,930 --> 00:09:23,110 there's been a number of ether 213 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:25,940 experimenters over the years who have 214 00:09:32,140 --> 00:09:29,210 gone up high on mountains or at least at 215 00:09:34,390 --> 00:09:32,150 various elevations and the the higher up 216 00:09:36,300 --> 00:09:34,400 that they went the faster was the ether 217 00:09:39,070 --> 00:09:36,310 drift speed that they could detect and 218 00:09:41,650 --> 00:09:39,080 this if you think of the earth like you 219 00:09:44,020 --> 00:09:41,660 know just make a fist and push it 220 00:09:45,970 --> 00:09:44,030 through the air you can feel a breeze as 221 00:09:48,910 --> 00:09:45,980 you move your fists through the air but 222 00:09:51,970 --> 00:09:48,920 the speed of the wind that you're 223 00:09:54,550 --> 00:09:51,980 experiencing there is slowed down next 224 00:09:56,740 --> 00:09:54,560 to the skin surface so you want to put 225 00:09:59,860 --> 00:09:56,750 these edge effects the skin surface or 226 00:10:02,710 --> 00:09:59,870 surface effects where the ether flows 227 00:10:05,380 --> 00:10:02,720 more slowly close to the Earth's surface 228 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:05,390 because it's a material ether and it's 229 00:10:09,430 --> 00:10:07,490 like water moving in a pipe it moves 230 00:10:12,820 --> 00:10:09,440 slowest where it comes into physical 231 00:10:15,100 --> 00:10:12,830 contact with the pipe due to friction so 232 00:10:16,750 --> 00:10:15,110 the ether has a low speed close to the 233 00:10:19,510 --> 00:10:16,760 earth and a higher speed the higher up 234 00:10:21,970 --> 00:10:19,520 you go in altitude and that aspect was 235 00:10:24,820 --> 00:10:21,980 ignored by all of the people in a Sayers 236 00:10:27,220 --> 00:10:24,830 of those ether drift experiments because 237 00:10:29,470 --> 00:10:27,230 it implied that the ether was a very 238 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:29,480 material thing and it's hard to know the 239 00:10:34,270 --> 00:10:31,490 psychology behind why this happened but 240 00:10:36,190 --> 00:10:34,280 all of those textbooks examples where 241 00:10:38,230 --> 00:10:36,200 they say that ether was never detected 242 00:10:40,570 --> 00:10:38,240 or Michelson Morley proved the ether did 243 00:10:42,370 --> 00:10:40,580 not exist they claimed that there was no 244 00:10:44,650 --> 00:10:42,380 result at all they say there's a null 245 00:10:47,170 --> 00:10:44,660 result but if you go to their original 246 00:10:49,780 --> 00:10:47,180 paper their 1887 paper which they 247 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:49,790 published that got everybody to look at 248 00:10:56,710 --> 00:10:52,370 their work they say very clearly they 249 00:10:59,710 --> 00:10:56,720 got this 5 to 7 point 5 km/s result and 250 00:11:01,780 --> 00:10:59,720 that it wasn't it wasn't the expected 251 00:11:04,190 --> 00:11:01,790 higher velocity of something like two to 252 00:11:06,829 --> 00:11:04,200 three hundred kilometres per second 253 00:11:09,650 --> 00:11:06,839 so because it was a small effect to the 254 00:11:12,350 --> 00:11:09,660 world of conventional science moved on 255 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:12,360 and dismissed it and became followers of 256 00:11:18,350 --> 00:11:16,410 the Einstein theory of empty space and a 257 00:11:20,689 --> 00:11:18,360 dead universe as I like to say empty 258 00:11:23,689 --> 00:11:20,699 space in a dead universe and meanwhile 259 00:11:26,780 --> 00:11:23,699 Wilhelm Reich working in that early part 260 00:11:29,569 --> 00:11:26,790 of the 20th century he's reading all 261 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:29,579 these things about the ether is been 262 00:11:34,670 --> 00:11:32,370 disproven all the mainstream people are 263 00:11:37,250 --> 00:11:34,680 saying the ether doesn't exist and Reich 264 00:11:39,829 --> 00:11:37,260 is saying this is was a disaster for 265 00:11:43,250 --> 00:11:39,839 theoretical science in some of his later 266 00:11:44,930 --> 00:11:43,260 writings and had the ether been accepted 267 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:44,940 at that point he might have called it a 268 00:11:50,150 --> 00:11:47,130 biological either/or that the ether had 269 00:11:52,040 --> 00:11:50,160 biological influences so instead he gave 270 00:11:55,970 --> 00:11:52,050 it a new name he called it Oregon energy 271 00:11:57,949 --> 00:11:55,980 to preserve it as a organic life energy 272 00:11:59,870 --> 00:11:57,959 but but if you look at the properties of 273 00:12:02,750 --> 00:11:59,880 these two phenomena the ether of space 274 00:12:05,180 --> 00:12:02,760 and the Oregon energy of rike the life 275 00:12:07,370 --> 00:12:05,190 energy they are both very similar 276 00:12:10,340 --> 00:12:07,380 they're both are ubiquitous phenomenon 277 00:12:12,680 --> 00:12:10,350 that they exist in all of space they 278 00:12:15,170 --> 00:12:12,690 fill all of space it has certain 279 00:12:18,110 --> 00:12:15,180 physical influences the Oregon Energy 280 00:12:20,750 --> 00:12:18,120 accumulator that Reich developed inside 281 00:12:24,079 --> 00:12:20,760 the accumulator the properties of the 282 00:12:26,569 --> 00:12:24,089 space inside it are altered because it's 283 00:12:29,900 --> 00:12:26,579 like a concentration of the ether a 284 00:12:31,639 --> 00:12:29,910 concentration of life energy so you get 285 00:12:33,850 --> 00:12:31,649 certain kinds of strange phenomenon 286 00:12:36,019 --> 00:12:33,860 happening inside such as a slight 287 00:12:38,660 --> 00:12:36,029 spontaneous increase in temperature 288 00:12:40,220 --> 00:12:38,670 which is right correctly pointed out was 289 00:12:42,740 --> 00:12:40,230 a violation of the second law of 290 00:12:45,620 --> 00:12:42,750 thermodynamics that the electrical 291 00:12:48,439 --> 00:12:45,630 density inside the organ accumulator is 292 00:12:50,930 --> 00:12:48,449 higher and this is proven by experiments 293 00:12:53,930 --> 00:12:50,940 with a standard static electroscope 294 00:12:56,059 --> 00:12:53,940 which will take longer to discharge it's 295 00:12:58,519 --> 00:12:56,069 accumulated charge then the identical 296 00:13:00,980 --> 00:12:58,529 electroscope just place a meter away 297 00:13:04,220 --> 00:13:00,990 from the accumulator in the same room 298 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:04,230 and then you got the biological boosting 299 00:13:08,449 --> 00:13:05,850 effects I've done all kinds of 300 00:13:11,750 --> 00:13:08,459 experiments with plants and seed growing 301 00:13:16,519 --> 00:13:11,760 and was able to show a fairly systematic 302 00:13:17,690 --> 00:13:16,529 effect of about 37% increase in the 303 00:13:20,510 --> 00:13:17,700 growth of mung bean 304 00:13:22,490 --> 00:13:20,520 seeds and a few other plant species when 305 00:13:25,610 --> 00:13:22,500 you sprout them inside of an organ 306 00:13:27,740 --> 00:13:25,620 accumulator as compared to a identical 307 00:13:29,510 --> 00:13:27,750 group of bean seeds kept in the same 308 00:13:32,540 --> 00:13:29,520 temperature environment and so forth 309 00:13:34,490 --> 00:13:32,550 under a cardboard box so the cardboard 310 00:13:36,650 --> 00:13:34,500 didn't have any real effect upon the the 311 00:13:39,530 --> 00:13:36,660 seeds but the organ accumulator most 312 00:13:42,380 --> 00:13:39,540 certainly did and that particular 313 00:13:44,720 --> 00:13:42,390 experiment reflects what the medical 314 00:13:46,750 --> 00:13:44,730 profession some of the doctors and other 315 00:13:49,430 --> 00:13:46,760 healers who use the organ accumulator 316 00:13:52,390 --> 00:13:49,440 showing that it speeds the healing of 317 00:13:55,070 --> 00:13:52,400 burns that it can in many cases 318 00:13:58,040 --> 00:13:55,080 disintegrate tumors of people who have a 319 00:14:00,080 --> 00:13:58,050 cancer that it overall boosts the immune 320 00:14:02,870 --> 00:14:00,090 system that's the best way to describe 321 00:14:05,810 --> 00:14:02,880 it such that any kind of disorder that's 322 00:14:09,050 --> 00:14:05,820 based upon an immune system dysfunction 323 00:14:11,330 --> 00:14:09,060 with the exception of a few exceptions 324 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:11,340 which I list in my book on the organ 325 00:14:17,420 --> 00:14:14,730 accumulator our benefit so I've known 326 00:14:19,550 --> 00:14:17,430 all kinds of people sensitive before I 327 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:19,560 wrote that book and after I wrote that 328 00:14:23,570 --> 00:14:21,810 book who've written me with thanks about 329 00:14:26,420 --> 00:14:23,580 a variety of things that they've had 330 00:14:28,610 --> 00:14:26,430 going wrong with their health and were 331 00:14:30,590 --> 00:14:28,620 benefited by sitting in the accumulator 332 00:14:32,540 --> 00:14:30,600 it's a device you sit inside it doesn't 333 00:14:34,700 --> 00:14:32,550 plug into the wall or anything it's just 334 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:34,710 it accumulates the energy from the 335 00:14:39,980 --> 00:14:37,050 background medium of space or of the 336 00:14:43,070 --> 00:14:39,990 atmosphere so it's passive device no 337 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:43,080 electrical plugs no transistors or coils 338 00:14:49,610 --> 00:14:45,210 or anything like that just sits there 339 00:14:51,830 --> 00:14:49,620 and it functions by virtue of how the 340 00:14:55,040 --> 00:14:51,840 life energy is attracted to all of 341 00:14:57,530 --> 00:14:55,050 matter but certain kinds of matter such 342 00:15:00,860 --> 00:14:57,540 as high dielectric materials attract and 343 00:15:02,630 --> 00:15:00,870 hold on to that charge and they will 344 00:15:04,850 --> 00:15:02,640 under those influences create an 345 00:15:07,150 --> 00:15:04,860 electrostatic field that's how you 346 00:15:09,770 --> 00:15:07,160 define a dielectric material as its 347 00:15:12,650 --> 00:15:09,780 capacity to hold an electrical charge or 348 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:12,660 electrostatic charge and with when you 349 00:15:19,010 --> 00:15:15,570 layer that with a conductor like a steel 350 00:15:20,990 --> 00:15:19,020 or steel wool which is something that 351 00:15:22,370 --> 00:15:21,000 attracts the Oregon energy also but it 352 00:15:24,890 --> 00:15:22,380 cannot hold on to it so it doesn't 353 00:15:26,600 --> 00:15:24,900 develop an electrostatic charge it but 354 00:15:29,450 --> 00:15:26,610 it might develop a little bit of a 355 00:15:31,490 --> 00:15:29,460 magnetic property and what you find is 356 00:15:34,250 --> 00:15:31,500 that when you layer those things 357 00:15:36,250 --> 00:15:34,260 in sheets a layer of steel wool a layer 358 00:15:38,630 --> 00:15:36,260 of sheep's wool which has got a 359 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:38,640 dielectric property due to the lanolin 360 00:15:44,660 --> 00:15:41,970 content of the sheep's wool and you make 361 00:15:46,910 --> 00:15:44,670 layers of that one after the other flat 362 00:15:48,760 --> 00:15:46,920 layers and then the inside of the 363 00:15:51,860 --> 00:15:48,770 accumulator has a ferromagnetic 364 00:15:54,650 --> 00:15:51,870 sheetmetal which is you know thin gauge 365 00:15:56,810 --> 00:15:54,660 something like 26 gauge just enough to 366 00:15:59,450 --> 00:15:56,820 give it sturdiness and support and then 367 00:16:01,520 --> 00:15:59,460 the exterior of all those layers is some 368 00:16:04,940 --> 00:16:01,530 kind of a organic material with a 369 00:16:07,070 --> 00:16:04,950 sturdiness such as a mason board or 370 00:16:08,630 --> 00:16:07,080 something like that or insulation board 371 00:16:11,570 --> 00:16:08,640 which is then painted with a high 372 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:11,580 dielectric shellac material we use this 373 00:16:16,190 --> 00:16:13,290 bullseye shellac which is very natural 374 00:16:19,550 --> 00:16:16,200 shellac material and of course each 375 00:16:21,380 --> 00:16:19,560 panel has a framework like a picture 376 00:16:24,410 --> 00:16:21,390 frame going around to just give it 377 00:16:27,170 --> 00:16:24,420 physical support and then these panels 378 00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:27,180 are organized like like the six sides of 379 00:16:32,930 --> 00:16:30,450 a box one of the larger panels you put 380 00:16:34,460 --> 00:16:32,940 on hinges so it's a door and then you 381 00:16:36,740 --> 00:16:34,470 have a window in that door so you can 382 00:16:38,240 --> 00:16:36,750 look out and get some air and when you 383 00:16:40,970 --> 00:16:38,250 sit in these things I mean that's that's 384 00:16:43,460 --> 00:16:40,980 all there is to it there's no no magic 385 00:16:46,150 --> 00:16:43,470 to it but it's just based on the 386 00:16:47,780 --> 00:16:46,160 properties of these layered materials 387 00:16:49,820 --> 00:16:47,790 mm-hmm mm-hmm 388 00:16:51,650 --> 00:16:49,830 yeah great breakdown and I think that is 389 00:16:54,620 --> 00:16:51,660 one of the weirdest aspects of the 390 00:16:57,170 --> 00:16:54,630 accumulator is that you just don't plug 391 00:17:00,110 --> 00:16:57,180 it in it's really just building a box 392 00:17:03,020 --> 00:17:00,120 with alternating layers of metal and non 393 00:17:06,110 --> 00:17:03,030 metal organic material and that's enough 394 00:17:08,210 --> 00:17:06,120 to concentrate this energy just from the 395 00:17:10,040 --> 00:17:08,220 air just from the environment and you 396 00:17:12,470 --> 00:17:10,050 mentioned this working really well on 397 00:17:15,140 --> 00:17:12,480 burns and I have this quote in my notes 398 00:17:17,059 --> 00:17:15,150 I believe from a German doctor I won't 399 00:17:19,550 --> 00:17:17,069 even try to pronounce this name but he 400 00:17:21,980 --> 00:17:19,560 said failure to use the Oregon 401 00:17:25,790 --> 00:17:21,990 accumulator in the case of severe burns 402 00:17:27,920 --> 00:17:25,800 constitutes medical malpractice which is 403 00:17:30,050 --> 00:17:27,930 a pretty bold statement but that's true 404 00:17:32,120 --> 00:17:30,060 if the medical community is ignoring 405 00:17:34,460 --> 00:17:32,130 something that works you gotta call a 406 00:17:37,070 --> 00:17:34,470 spade a spade I just wanted to add that 407 00:17:39,170 --> 00:17:37,080 in but all of this context for how the 408 00:17:42,650 --> 00:17:39,180 accumulator works and how it's made 409 00:17:44,660 --> 00:17:42,660 using no outside power it does make this 410 00:17:47,570 --> 00:17:44,670 Oregon Energy seem 411 00:17:49,550 --> 00:17:47,580 very plentiful and abundant yet we still 412 00:17:53,120 --> 00:17:49,560 have a hard time moving the needle of 413 00:17:55,580 --> 00:17:53,130 acceptance how can we approach our more 414 00:17:58,340 --> 00:17:55,590 skeptical friends and family with this I 415 00:18:00,770 --> 00:17:58,350 mean what can we point them to so that 416 00:18:03,770 --> 00:18:00,780 they can entertain something like organ 417 00:18:05,990 --> 00:18:03,780 energy or ether because there are a few 418 00:18:08,360 --> 00:18:06,000 places we can get a glimpse of it you 419 00:18:10,010 --> 00:18:08,370 write about the dancing dot phenomenon 420 00:18:12,290 --> 00:18:10,020 where you're in a dark room but you can 421 00:18:14,390 --> 00:18:12,300 see a little bit of glow and then of 422 00:18:17,060 --> 00:18:14,400 course there are some natural places in 423 00:18:20,750 --> 00:18:17,070 nature that are relatively untouched by 424 00:18:23,120 --> 00:18:20,760 humanity and sometimes this energy 425 00:18:26,390 --> 00:18:23,130 charge builds up there too and they have 426 00:18:28,820 --> 00:18:26,400 an exceptionally blue look or glow to 427 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:28,830 them and these are good examples these 428 00:18:34,370 --> 00:18:31,410 are good points but for such an abundant 429 00:18:36,890 --> 00:18:34,380 energy it seems hard to confirm where 430 00:18:41,180 --> 00:18:36,900 should we tell people to look if they 431 00:18:43,690 --> 00:18:41,190 want to see or sense this well it's an 432 00:18:46,820 --> 00:18:43,700 energy that as Reich argued underlays 433 00:18:49,010 --> 00:18:46,830 cognition and perception it is the 434 00:18:52,130 --> 00:18:49,020 medium through which we we feel 435 00:18:55,250 --> 00:18:52,140 connection to the natural world so for 436 00:18:57,680 --> 00:18:55,260 example a good way to contrast the 437 00:18:59,960 --> 00:18:57,690 bioenergetic feelings is firstly to 438 00:19:02,690 --> 00:18:59,970 realize that the organ energy has 439 00:19:05,750 --> 00:19:02,700 different states of activity or 440 00:19:08,930 --> 00:19:05,760 qualitative States to it so for example 441 00:19:12,860 --> 00:19:08,940 the the energy that you would find in a 442 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:12,870 forest area or in a dry condition in the 443 00:19:18,020 --> 00:19:15,450 Pacific redwood forests for example 444 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:18,030 people talk about hugging trees well 445 00:19:22,940 --> 00:19:20,970 they feel something I felt this - you go 446 00:19:25,220 --> 00:19:22,950 up near some of these big redwoods and 447 00:19:27,740 --> 00:19:25,230 you lean against them my gosh you feel 448 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:27,750 this radiant energy that's what you feel 449 00:19:32,420 --> 00:19:30,210 inside the oregon accumulator same thing 450 00:19:34,130 --> 00:19:32,430 some people claim healing effects from 451 00:19:36,230 --> 00:19:34,140 from doing that I can't speak to that 452 00:19:38,330 --> 00:19:36,240 because most of the reports are just 453 00:19:41,270 --> 00:19:38,340 very subjective but the kind of reports 454 00:19:43,010 --> 00:19:41,280 that I'm I deal with in my book and by 455 00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:43,020 the way I give full instructions on how 456 00:19:48,350 --> 00:19:45,810 to build these but the reports that I'm 457 00:19:50,630 --> 00:19:48,360 quoting from and that I'm citing to 458 00:19:53,630 --> 00:19:50,640 build the argument are our published 459 00:19:56,570 --> 00:19:53,640 articles in research journals by medical 460 00:19:59,120 --> 00:19:56,580 and other health professionals 461 00:20:02,419 --> 00:19:59,130 serious phd-level scientists I'm a 462 00:20:04,250 --> 00:20:02,429 classically trained PhD scientist I've 463 00:20:06,860 --> 00:20:04,260 taught in different departments of 464 00:20:09,049 --> 00:20:06,870 geography and geology and so forth my 465 00:20:11,779 --> 00:20:09,059 specialty was deserts and desert 466 00:20:13,789 --> 00:20:11,789 desertification which is how I got most 467 00:20:15,769 --> 00:20:13,799 decidedly interested in Russia's work 468 00:20:17,570 --> 00:20:15,779 but the discovery of the Oregon 469 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:17,580 accumulator I mean one of Russia's 470 00:20:21,590 --> 00:20:19,890 associates to make another quote he said 471 00:20:23,630 --> 00:20:21,600 that the Oregon accumulator is the most 472 00:20:27,380 --> 00:20:23,640 important discovery in the history of 473 00:20:30,470 --> 00:20:27,390 Medicine Bar None and I think he's right 474 00:20:32,690 --> 00:20:30,480 because you look at all the crazy things 475 00:20:35,269 --> 00:20:32,700 the deadly things that are going on in 476 00:20:37,460 --> 00:20:35,279 the hospitals today I mean they are 477 00:20:39,529 --> 00:20:37,470 chopping off woman's breasts healthy 478 00:20:43,279 --> 00:20:39,539 breasts on the basis of genetic 479 00:20:46,250 --> 00:20:43,289 hocus-pocus based upon oh you might get 480 00:20:48,470 --> 00:20:46,260 cancer so let's cut them off now I mean 481 00:20:50,210 --> 00:20:48,480 can you imagine if men were told that 482 00:20:53,629 --> 00:20:50,220 about their testicles you know oh you 483 00:20:57,230 --> 00:20:53,639 might get testicle cancer so let's cut 484 00:20:58,909 --> 00:20:57,240 them off now I don't think you'd have a 485 00:21:01,159 --> 00:20:58,919 riot you know this wouldn't happen but 486 00:21:02,750 --> 00:21:01,169 women somehow are lining up to have this 487 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:02,760 kind of thing done to themselves or 488 00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:05,610 their daughters it is sick absolutely 489 00:21:11,090 --> 00:21:09,090 sick or now god forbid you know they're 490 00:21:14,389 --> 00:21:11,100 they're castrating children in the 491 00:21:16,789 --> 00:21:14,399 hospitals on this transgender stuff it 492 00:21:19,580 --> 00:21:16,799 is totally insane totally absolutely 493 00:21:20,180 --> 00:21:19,590 insane the medical profession has gone 494 00:21:22,340 --> 00:21:20,190 nuts 495 00:21:24,139 --> 00:21:22,350 and it's part of the reason why I 496 00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:24,149 thought they went nuts when they burned 497 00:21:28,370 --> 00:21:26,610 the Byrne righteous books you know a lot 498 00:21:31,009 --> 00:21:28,380 of the medical doctors and psychiatrists 499 00:21:33,460 --> 00:21:31,019 stood up and applauded when Reich went 500 00:21:36,019 --> 00:21:33,470 to prison and his books were burned and 501 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:36,029 you know he isn't the only medical 502 00:21:40,159 --> 00:21:38,490 heretic to run afoul of the food and 503 00:21:42,620 --> 00:21:40,169 drug people in the medical licensing 504 00:21:44,990 --> 00:21:42,630 boards and so I always advise people to 505 00:21:49,190 --> 00:21:45,000 stay away from the hospitals especially 506 00:21:51,769 --> 00:21:49,200 if you're sick yeah I hear ya you know I 507 00:21:54,500 --> 00:21:51,779 mean if you get hit by a car okay yeah 508 00:21:56,090 --> 00:21:54,510 these guys are good for repairing sewing 509 00:21:57,919 --> 00:21:56,100 you up or whatever there's a lot of 510 00:22:00,649 --> 00:21:57,929 expertise there but when it comes to 511 00:22:02,870 --> 00:22:00,659 degenerative illness they haven't a clue 512 00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:02,880 and the reason is is that they 513 00:22:08,779 --> 00:22:05,250 throughout the discovery of the life 514 00:22:10,350 --> 00:22:08,789 energy back in 1957 when Reich was it 515 00:22:12,810 --> 00:22:10,360 thrown in prison 516 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:12,820 so the discovery of the life energy was 517 00:22:18,810 --> 00:22:15,850 something that was part of the of the 518 00:22:21,659 --> 00:22:18,820 historical progress of science as it 519 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:21,669 developed step by step to understand 520 00:22:28,409 --> 00:22:24,610 biology in the areas of biology and 521 00:22:30,899 --> 00:22:28,419 medicine and suddenly this sledge hammer 522 00:22:33,630 --> 00:22:30,909 came down BAM which said no you cannot 523 00:22:35,850 --> 00:22:33,640 touch the issue of life energy it is 524 00:22:38,460 --> 00:22:35,860 taboo it is forbidden and it was thrown 525 00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:38,470 out so much likes it ether how the ether 526 00:22:42,509 --> 00:22:40,570 changed physics they threw out the ether 527 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:42,519 and now you got empty space and you got 528 00:22:46,860 --> 00:22:45,010 a dead universe so they reference 529 00:22:50,279 --> 00:22:46,870 mystical things that nobody has ever 530 00:22:52,830 --> 00:22:50,289 seen like Einstein's space-time curved 531 00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:52,840 space-time has anybody seen that made a 532 00:22:57,779 --> 00:22:55,570 photograph of it no it's all totally 533 00:22:59,700 --> 00:22:57,789 hypothetical or black holes I mean they 534 00:23:02,129 --> 00:22:59,710 got one very bogus kind of thing that 535 00:23:04,950 --> 00:23:02,139 recently was released with a big cupola 536 00:23:06,779 --> 00:23:04,960 in the press but you know black holes 537 00:23:09,269 --> 00:23:06,789 they're everywhere every time they find 538 00:23:12,750 --> 00:23:09,279 a gravitational anomaly they stick a 539 00:23:16,049 --> 00:23:12,760 hypothetical black hole in there the 540 00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:16,059 whole of science has gone off into a 541 00:23:21,149 --> 00:23:19,210 cul-de-sac in my opinion following the 542 00:23:25,230 --> 00:23:21,159 premature dismissal of the ether and 543 00:23:28,340 --> 00:23:25,240 following the sledgehammer approach to 544 00:23:30,269 --> 00:23:28,350 obliterating William righteous work yeah 545 00:23:33,899 --> 00:23:30,279 could have been a whole different world 546 00:23:36,450 --> 00:23:33,909 it's really sad to see that and it's 547 00:23:38,310 --> 00:23:36,460 just I am kind of awestruck at how it 548 00:23:40,889 --> 00:23:38,320 even happens I mean the papers are 549 00:23:42,810 --> 00:23:40,899 published the data is there the results 550 00:23:45,330 --> 00:23:42,820 are verified it should be pretty 551 00:23:47,310 --> 00:23:45,340 standard science at that point I 552 00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:47,320 understand it upsets the financial 553 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:49,210 applecart of some corporate interest but 554 00:23:53,399 --> 00:23:51,730 I would assume I think it's just it 555 00:23:55,289 --> 00:23:53,409 seems like a huge undertaking to 556 00:23:59,029 --> 00:23:55,299 suppress something that has been 557 00:24:01,289 --> 00:23:59,039 verified it is and of course the 558 00:24:03,539 --> 00:24:01,299 establishment or the Orthodox or I 559 00:24:06,950 --> 00:24:03,549 shouldn't say orthodoxy the conventional 560 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:06,960 thinkers have the media on their side 561 00:24:12,210 --> 00:24:09,730 they have the Internet people on their 562 00:24:14,159 --> 00:24:12,220 side you know right now Facebook Google 563 00:24:16,740 --> 00:24:14,169 Twitter and so on they're organizing 564 00:24:19,230 --> 00:24:16,750 well they're already suppressing 565 00:24:21,269 --> 00:24:19,240 conservative speech maybe you heard that 566 00:24:23,500 --> 00:24:21,279 jr. Rowling the woman who wrote all 567 00:24:26,020 --> 00:24:23,510 those books on Harry Potter 568 00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:26,030 she made some Twitter comment two days 569 00:24:31,450 --> 00:24:28,850 ago about how she thought that the 570 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:31,460 transgender men are taking over women's 571 00:24:35,350 --> 00:24:34,010 sports and invading women's private 572 00:24:38,230 --> 00:24:35,360 space and she didn't think that was a 573 00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:38,240 good idea and she's been banned now 574 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:41,570 she's been totally D platformed just for 575 00:24:47,170 --> 00:24:44,930 saying something simple like that so I 576 00:24:49,870 --> 00:24:47,180 mean we're losing freedom of speech on a 577 00:24:51,700 --> 00:24:49,880 whole variety of things but the fact of 578 00:24:55,410 --> 00:24:51,710 the matter is is that the science and 579 00:24:58,810 --> 00:24:55,420 the medical system has been practicing 580 00:25:01,180 --> 00:24:58,820 censorship on not just rike and medical 581 00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:01,190 things but look at the co2 theory the 582 00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:03,290 co2 theory is a biochemical it's like 583 00:25:09,670 --> 00:25:06,650 biochemical medicine the solar theory of 584 00:25:12,460 --> 00:25:09,680 climate changes appears rational and 585 00:25:14,650 --> 00:25:12,470 real because it's it's verified and 586 00:25:16,780 --> 00:25:14,660 we've got real climate changes but they 587 00:25:19,180 --> 00:25:16,790 happened you know over hundreds of years 588 00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:19,190 not something just recently from 589 00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:22,490 industrial co2 and yet how many of the 590 00:25:27,550 --> 00:25:24,890 media venues allow anybody who is a 591 00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:27,560 critic of the co2 theory to come on for 592 00:25:32,230 --> 00:25:29,570 an interview well they don't 593 00:25:33,850 --> 00:25:32,240 it's totally censored out oh you got to 594 00:25:36,220 --> 00:25:33,860 go to the internet to get that kind of 595 00:25:38,890 --> 00:25:36,230 info and even there it's difficult 596 00:25:41,010 --> 00:25:38,900 unless you know what to look for people 597 00:25:43,870 --> 00:25:41,020 go to Wikipedia which is the worst 598 00:25:46,120 --> 00:25:43,880 misinformation website one can go to a 599 00:25:48,790 --> 00:25:46,130 lot of a lot of the old-style professors 600 00:25:51,220 --> 00:25:48,800 like me you cite Wikipedia and you're 601 00:25:52,930 --> 00:25:51,230 going to get a flunk in grade well when 602 00:25:54,730 --> 00:25:52,940 I was still teaching in the Universities 603 00:25:57,280 --> 00:25:54,740 this was before internet really got 604 00:25:59,440 --> 00:25:57,290 going but I always mention that in my 605 00:26:01,960 --> 00:25:59,450 seminars that anybody who relies on 606 00:26:04,060 --> 00:26:01,970 Wikipedia is going to be terribly 607 00:26:08,050 --> 00:26:04,070 ignorant of what's going on in the real 608 00:26:10,540 --> 00:26:08,060 world and with respect to reich all the 609 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:10,550 pages on will and reich are totally 610 00:26:16,180 --> 00:26:12,890 filled with slander the same kind of 611 00:26:18,630 --> 00:26:16,190 slander and nastiness that was appearing 612 00:26:21,730 --> 00:26:18,640 in the mainstream media back in the 613 00:26:23,980 --> 00:26:21,740 1940s and 50s when Reich was making his 614 00:26:26,890 --> 00:26:23,990 work in the United States Yahoo he fled 615 00:26:29,110 --> 00:26:26,900 Europe to get away from the the Nazis 616 00:26:30,940 --> 00:26:29,120 who had put him on their death list but 617 00:26:33,820 --> 00:26:30,950 the Communists also put him on their 618 00:26:35,710 --> 00:26:33,830 death lists in 1936 they the Comintern 619 00:26:36,830 --> 00:26:35,720 was going after him they wanted to 620 00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:36,840 arrest him 621 00:26:41,269 --> 00:26:39,210 and send him off to the gulag and he had 622 00:26:44,269 --> 00:26:41,279 been thrown out of the International 623 00:26:46,610 --> 00:26:44,279 psychoanalytic Association his theories 624 00:26:49,220 --> 00:26:46,620 his ideas upset everybody and whenever 625 00:26:51,590 --> 00:26:49,230 you find somebody who's like that whose 626 00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:51,600 ideas are upsetting everybody left right 627 00:26:56,130 --> 00:26:54,330 center whatever well you probably got a 628 00:26:57,720 --> 00:26:56,140 truth-teller 629 00:26:59,730 --> 00:26:57,730 probably got somebody who's really 630 00:27:01,380 --> 00:26:59,740 important and they're onto something and 631 00:27:03,899 --> 00:27:01,390 that was one of the things that 632 00:27:05,669 --> 00:27:03,909 attracted me to Reich originally back in 633 00:27:08,360 --> 00:27:05,679 the nineteen I guess it was around 634 00:27:11,730 --> 00:27:08,370 nineteen sixty nine seventy when I first 635 00:27:14,279 --> 00:27:11,740 read one of brushes books today it's 636 00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:14,289 available as selected writings that's 637 00:27:17,789 --> 00:27:15,850 one of the interesting books that 638 00:27:20,519 --> 00:27:17,799 there's a good starting place for people 639 00:27:23,039 --> 00:27:20,529 to read about right right on right on 640 00:27:25,860 --> 00:27:23,049 yes I am attracted to those kind of 641 00:27:29,430 --> 00:27:25,870 personalities as well and you mentioned 642 00:27:32,159 --> 00:27:29,440 the study and experiment that you did 643 00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:32,169 with seeds and got 37 percent increase 644 00:27:36,629 --> 00:27:34,570 in seed growth with the ones that were 645 00:27:38,789 --> 00:27:36,639 germinated inside the accumulator 646 00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:38,799 there's also another study we can look 647 00:27:43,019 --> 00:27:40,690 at with rats I believe that's pretty 648 00:27:44,430 --> 00:27:43,029 impressive tell people about that so 649 00:27:47,159 --> 00:27:44,440 that they can kind of get an idea of 650 00:27:50,639 --> 00:27:47,169 what has been verified with these 651 00:27:53,279 --> 00:27:50,649 devices yeah laboratory mice rice did a 652 00:27:56,039 --> 00:27:53,289 very elaborated experiment on that where 653 00:27:57,810 --> 00:27:56,049 he took one group of these are cancer 654 00:28:00,360 --> 00:27:57,820 mice that are being experimented with 655 00:28:01,980 --> 00:28:00,370 they call them technically of a ch4 656 00:28:04,490 --> 00:28:01,990 Mouse it's something where they're 657 00:28:08,610 --> 00:28:04,500 inbred sufficiently in number of times 658 00:28:10,889 --> 00:28:08,620 that they develop mammary tumors usually 659 00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:10,899 within the first couple of weeks of life 660 00:28:15,180 --> 00:28:13,450 and it's almost a hundred percent 661 00:28:17,220 --> 00:28:15,190 assured that they're going to get these 662 00:28:20,220 --> 00:28:17,230 tumors so this is this is kind of mouse 663 00:28:22,230 --> 00:28:20,230 they use it so it's got kind of poor 664 00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:22,240 mice you know I feel for them but this 665 00:28:26,909 --> 00:28:24,250 is what the scientific research and 666 00:28:29,340 --> 00:28:26,919 medicine uses typically as an 667 00:28:32,070 --> 00:28:29,350 experimental animal so if you give them 668 00:28:34,529 --> 00:28:32,080 a some kind of an influence that is more 669 00:28:38,340 --> 00:28:34,539 toxic than presumably it will create the 670 00:28:41,370 --> 00:28:38,350 tumors in greater proportion if you give 671 00:28:43,740 --> 00:28:41,380 them something that is in opposition to 672 00:28:46,950 --> 00:28:43,750 cancer then it will delay their deaths 673 00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:46,960 or the growth of their tumors so Reich 674 00:28:57,220 --> 00:28:53,570 took these ch4 mice these cancer mice 675 00:28:59,260 --> 00:28:57,230 half of the group into a control 676 00:29:01,180 --> 00:28:59,270 situation where nothing was done other 677 00:29:04,150 --> 00:29:01,190 than feeding and caring for them and it 678 00:29:06,430 --> 00:29:04,160 in the usual way giving them plenty of 679 00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:06,440 food and water and so forth and the 680 00:29:11,980 --> 00:29:08,810 other group also got the same treatment 681 00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:11,990 but with an in additional one hour a day 682 00:29:16,540 --> 00:29:15,170 they were put into small sized or gonna 683 00:29:18,940 --> 00:29:16,550 Kim you laters these are organic 684 00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:18,950 emulators that were sort of mouths sized 685 00:29:22,660 --> 00:29:21,170 you know they're not really big one of 686 00:29:24,310 --> 00:29:22,670 the things with the accumulator is you 687 00:29:26,980 --> 00:29:24,320 don't want it too big you want it close 688 00:29:29,710 --> 00:29:26,990 enough to the wall the radiant effect 689 00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:29,720 from the walls will be close to your 690 00:29:36,310 --> 00:29:32,810 skin so this experiment he showed the 691 00:29:38,710 --> 00:29:36,320 mice had 300% extension of their 692 00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:38,720 lifespan with the organ accumulator 693 00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:43,250 three times as long as the control group 694 00:29:47,500 --> 00:29:45,410 now that experiment was replicated in 695 00:29:50,110 --> 00:29:47,510 more recent years by a physician 696 00:29:51,910 --> 00:29:50,120 Richard blast man and a couple of 697 00:29:53,530 --> 00:29:51,920 Brazilian scientists I can't remember 698 00:29:55,180 --> 00:29:53,540 the names right now but it's all it's 699 00:29:58,510 --> 00:29:55,190 all been published and there's the 700 00:30:03,040 --> 00:29:58,520 citations are in my my book and they got 701 00:30:06,010 --> 00:30:03,050 about 200% increase in longevity now 702 00:30:08,110 --> 00:30:06,020 contrast that to what goes on today if 703 00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:08,120 somebody has a new pharmaceutical drug 704 00:30:13,690 --> 00:30:10,850 and they talk about a 5% increase in 705 00:30:16,450 --> 00:30:13,700 longevity it makes the news all over the 706 00:30:19,210 --> 00:30:16,460 world you know my god 5% increase whoa 707 00:30:20,830 --> 00:30:19,220 this is important know you know make 708 00:30:24,100 --> 00:30:20,840 more of those pills you know charge 709 00:30:25,750 --> 00:30:24,110 people $100 a pill or whatever and here 710 00:30:30,210 --> 00:30:25,760 he's got the studies with the 711 00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:30,220 accumulator 200% 300% 712 00:30:34,740 --> 00:30:32,890 extension of life in the clinical 713 00:30:37,409 --> 00:30:34,750 studies on this just as a general 714 00:30:39,810 --> 00:30:37,419 observation the people I know who use 715 00:30:43,230 --> 00:30:39,820 the accumulator regularly they live in 716 00:30:45,630 --> 00:30:43,240 290 a hundred years old or more and I 717 00:30:48,450 --> 00:30:45,640 use an Oregon energy accumulator in a 718 00:30:50,039 --> 00:30:48,460 blanket regularly and you know it's it's 719 00:30:52,799 --> 00:30:50,049 something where you sit inside of it 720 00:30:55,020 --> 00:30:52,809 half an hour 45 minutes a day most or 721 00:30:56,970 --> 00:30:55,030 you can use an Oregon blanket and you 722 00:30:59,460 --> 00:30:56,980 can bring that to bed with you sleep 723 00:31:02,520 --> 00:30:59,470 under it and I haven't been to a doctor 724 00:31:04,169 --> 00:31:02,530 I guess in about 50 years have very few 725 00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:04,179 colds or flu or anything like that 726 00:31:09,149 --> 00:31:07,330 sometimes I get down when I do some kind 727 00:31:11,490 --> 00:31:09,159 of long distance traveling in the 728 00:31:13,799 --> 00:31:11,500 airplanes and so on but it's a miracle 729 00:31:16,289 --> 00:31:13,809 kind of thing I mean I I don't want to 730 00:31:20,220 --> 00:31:16,299 call it it isn't really a miracle it's a 731 00:31:23,340 --> 00:31:20,230 scientifically proven thing that boosts 732 00:31:25,350 --> 00:31:23,350 your immune system and whatever kind of 733 00:31:28,049 --> 00:31:25,360 problem you have what is an immune 734 00:31:30,659 --> 00:31:28,059 system back in righteous day they didn't 735 00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:30,669 have the word immune system they simply 736 00:31:36,899 --> 00:31:34,330 called it the resistance to disease but 737 00:31:38,940 --> 00:31:36,909 now we got autoimmune systems which is 738 00:31:41,580 --> 00:31:38,950 another kind of thing so they it isn't 739 00:31:44,190 --> 00:31:41,590 really resistance to disease in some 740 00:31:46,860 --> 00:31:44,200 cases your immune system as they say is 741 00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:46,870 overactive well we would call this from 742 00:31:50,700 --> 00:31:48,730 Raj's point of view an overcharge 743 00:31:53,669 --> 00:31:50,710 situation is what in other words you've 744 00:31:55,950 --> 00:31:53,679 got too much energy and he developed 745 00:31:58,230 --> 00:31:55,960 some steps and procedures to reduce that 746 00:31:59,880 --> 00:31:58,240 which go back to some of the old-school 747 00:32:00,990 --> 00:31:59,890 kind of medical therapies such as 748 00:32:02,909 --> 00:32:01,000 hydrotherapy 749 00:32:06,180 --> 00:32:02,919 in other words if you have a lot of 750 00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:06,190 energy too much energy this can lead you 751 00:32:11,820 --> 00:32:08,650 into hypertension but if you soak in the 752 00:32:14,909 --> 00:32:11,830 bath with some mineral salts or 753 00:32:18,210 --> 00:32:14,919 something do that once every night a lot 754 00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:18,220 of this overcharge hypertension anxiety 755 00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:21,730 reactions and so forth fade away they're 756 00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:24,970 not in every case but it can be helped 757 00:32:29,490 --> 00:32:26,890 by things like that and water is 758 00:32:32,940 --> 00:32:29,500 something that Reich found absorbs the 759 00:32:35,669 --> 00:32:32,950 organ energy whatever has an overcharge 760 00:32:39,270 --> 00:32:35,679 of energy you dunk it in water and it 761 00:32:40,590 --> 00:32:39,280 sort of calms it out similar to how if 762 00:32:42,299 --> 00:32:40,600 your hands are wet and you touch 763 00:32:44,310 --> 00:32:42,309 something that has an electrical charge 764 00:32:47,220 --> 00:32:44,320 or electrostatic charge sort of 765 00:32:50,070 --> 00:32:47,230 to pates it right off but yeah there's a 766 00:32:52,830 --> 00:32:50,080 number of things from Russia's work on 767 00:32:55,740 --> 00:32:52,840 what he called the biopsies and he's bio 768 00:32:58,940 --> 00:32:55,750 Pathak diseases as he termed them were 769 00:33:02,249 --> 00:32:58,950 bio energetic in their basic structure 770 00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:02,259 so that includes a lot of a lot of the 771 00:33:07,190 --> 00:33:04,450 major degenerative illnesses that modern 772 00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:07,200 science has not been able to fathom 773 00:33:11,549 --> 00:33:09,730 right right and I wanted to ask you a 774 00:33:14,039 --> 00:33:11,559 little more about that orgone 775 00:33:15,330 --> 00:33:14,049 relationship with water because it's 776 00:33:17,310 --> 00:33:15,340 quite interesting and I know you're 777 00:33:19,499 --> 00:33:17,320 aware of dr. Gerald Pollock's work on 778 00:33:21,090 --> 00:33:19,509 structured water and some of the living 779 00:33:23,639 --> 00:33:21,100 water science it's being done out there 780 00:33:26,279 --> 00:33:23,649 and I've heard you talk about healing 781 00:33:28,499 --> 00:33:26,289 Springs that the Native Americans use 782 00:33:32,580 --> 00:33:28,509 them and early American settlers picked 783 00:33:34,710 --> 00:33:32,590 this up too and at a time in the past we 784 00:33:37,470 --> 00:33:34,720 actually had maybe even hundreds of 785 00:33:41,220 --> 00:33:37,480 these natural healing Springs or spas 786 00:33:43,230 --> 00:33:41,230 built on these natural places and this 787 00:33:47,100 --> 00:33:43,240 is another aspect of our history that 788 00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:47,110 was shut down and erased right yes 789 00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:49,570 indeed I have a short chapter on that in 790 00:33:54,930 --> 00:33:52,210 my accumulator handbook about living 791 00:33:56,749 --> 00:33:54,940 water and of course the term living 792 00:33:59,850 --> 00:33:56,759 water I got from schauberger and 793 00:34:02,340 --> 00:33:59,860 schauberger was a genius in terms of the 794 00:34:04,139 --> 00:34:02,350 properties of water and from structuring 795 00:34:06,779 --> 00:34:04,149 water and getting the understanding of 796 00:34:10,339 --> 00:34:06,789 how when water is world in a vortex 797 00:34:12,599 --> 00:34:10,349 fashion its structure has changed and 798 00:34:14,819 --> 00:34:12,609 that has got some laboratory 799 00:34:18,599 --> 00:34:14,829 confirmation Gerald [\h__\h] with his 800 00:34:21,750 --> 00:34:18,609 easy water is easy exclusion zone water 801 00:34:24,720 --> 00:34:21,760 this is a new scientific discovery and 802 00:34:26,970 --> 00:34:24,730 breakthrough that helps to add substance 803 00:34:29,460 --> 00:34:26,980 to the idea that water isn't merely just 804 00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:29,470 some dead chemical it is a chemical to 805 00:34:36,240 --> 00:34:32,050 be sure but there are energetic 806 00:34:38,639 --> 00:34:36,250 properties that infuse into water which 807 00:34:42,569 --> 00:34:38,649 can change its its structure its 808 00:34:44,460 --> 00:34:42,579 viscosity its thermal reactivity and all 809 00:34:47,819 --> 00:34:44,470 different kinds of properties of water 810 00:34:50,010 --> 00:34:47,829 can be modified by some different 811 00:34:52,559 --> 00:34:50,020 methods one is whirling or vortexing 812 00:34:56,010 --> 00:34:52,569 water the other is exposing it to 813 00:34:57,990 --> 00:34:56,020 certain high dielectric materials such 814 00:35:01,800 --> 00:34:58,000 as the nación material that 815 00:35:03,570 --> 00:35:01,810 Kapali uses and I did a set of 816 00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:03,580 experiments which were published in the 817 00:35:09,210 --> 00:35:05,650 water journal that he is the editor of 818 00:35:11,460 --> 00:35:09,220 where if you put the water in side and 819 00:35:13,590 --> 00:35:11,470 Oregon energy accumulator it develops 820 00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:13,600 spectral qualities and changes in 821 00:35:18,900 --> 00:35:16,090 structure that are identical in the same 822 00:35:21,630 --> 00:35:18,910 direction for example if you Oregon 823 00:35:24,750 --> 00:35:21,640 charge water will have a strong 824 00:35:27,630 --> 00:35:24,760 ultraviolet absorption a strong 825 00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:27,640 ultraviolet absorption in the mid to far 826 00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:30,970 range UV between around Oh approximately 827 00:35:37,170 --> 00:35:34,330 200 to 300 nanometers and that's in the 828 00:35:39,780 --> 00:35:37,180 invisible ultraviolet if you look at the 829 00:35:43,170 --> 00:35:39,790 fluorescence of Oregon charge water it 830 00:35:44,940 --> 00:35:43,180 is a little bit higher longer wave 831 00:35:47,730 --> 00:35:44,950 frequencies you wind up with a 832 00:35:51,300 --> 00:35:47,740 fluorescent effect from Oregon charge 833 00:35:55,970 --> 00:35:51,310 water that's somewhere around 350 to 500 834 00:35:59,370 --> 00:35:55,980 nanometers 400 500 now that is a visible 835 00:36:01,200 --> 00:35:59,380 quality it's the near UV and the blue 836 00:36:03,540 --> 00:36:01,210 frequencies and this is something that 837 00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:03,550 rock talked about about the Oregon 838 00:36:09,180 --> 00:36:06,010 energy having this blue dark blue color 839 00:36:11,610 --> 00:36:09,190 as seen in in different natural contexts 840 00:36:15,060 --> 00:36:11,620 I was able to prove it out using 841 00:36:18,930 --> 00:36:15,070 standard methods of UV and visible light 842 00:36:21,300 --> 00:36:18,940 spectroscopy and I wrote this rather 843 00:36:22,950 --> 00:36:21,310 long paper it's not cited in the 844 00:36:26,250 --> 00:36:22,960 accumulator book because this is only 845 00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:26,260 recent research but if you go to my 846 00:36:36,030 --> 00:36:30,490 website which is organ lab org who are 847 00:36:38,370 --> 00:36:36,040 Jibo and E lab dot org I give citations 848 00:36:40,890 --> 00:36:38,380 there one can follow my work and my 849 00:36:43,830 --> 00:36:40,900 research from that website it also asks 850 00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:43,840 you to if you want to add your email to 851 00:36:49,710 --> 00:36:47,290 my newsletter so there's there's all 852 00:36:52,890 --> 00:36:49,720 kinds of interesting work done on this 853 00:36:55,110 --> 00:36:52,900 issue of water structure and I did a lot 854 00:36:57,720 --> 00:36:55,120 of this research myself and showed that 855 00:36:59,790 --> 00:36:57,730 the organ accumulator can create these 856 00:37:02,130 --> 00:36:59,800 kind of reactions as well which is quite 857 00:37:04,110 --> 00:37:02,140 astonishing too because it's by 858 00:37:05,460 --> 00:37:04,120 conventional skepticism it's just an 859 00:37:08,370 --> 00:37:05,470 empty box all right they say oh it's 860 00:37:11,070 --> 00:37:08,380 just a box you know but it isn't just a 861 00:37:14,010 --> 00:37:11,080 box it does all these interesting things 862 00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:14,020 now you mentioned the spa's and the 863 00:37:20,010 --> 00:37:17,530 united states have dozens of hot spring 864 00:37:22,410 --> 00:37:20,020 natural healing spots very much like 865 00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:22,420 what Germany and other places in Europe 866 00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:25,450 still have they call them these Healing 867 00:37:30,540 --> 00:37:28,810 spas of where they have mineral waters 868 00:37:33,180 --> 00:37:30,550 that come straight out of the ground and 869 00:37:37,050 --> 00:37:33,190 they mark it off with a food so that the 870 00:37:40,140 --> 00:37:37,060 water flows into a pool or into at least 871 00:37:43,770 --> 00:37:40,150 a basin of some kind and if you sit and 872 00:37:47,070 --> 00:37:43,780 you rest inside these hot mineral rich 873 00:37:49,380 --> 00:37:47,080 waters something goes on bio 874 00:37:51,660 --> 00:37:49,390 energetically it's not just a bunch of a 875 00:37:54,210 --> 00:37:51,670 soup of chemicals there's some kind of 876 00:37:57,600 --> 00:37:54,220 an energetic property of the water that 877 00:38:00,420 --> 00:37:57,610 has a healing effect and this is a real 878 00:38:03,510 --> 00:38:00,430 thing it's not some mystical new-age 879 00:38:05,370 --> 00:38:03,520 kind of hypothesis there are people all 880 00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:05,380 over the world who are flocking to these 881 00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:07,690 spas and in some places they're 882 00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:09,130 privately owned and you have to pay 883 00:38:14,970 --> 00:38:11,410 money to get in there but nevertheless 884 00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:14,980 it's cheaper than hospitals and with a 885 00:38:19,260 --> 00:38:16,810 lot of really kind of remarkable things 886 00:38:23,730 --> 00:38:19,270 I never was sick enough to test that out 887 00:38:26,700 --> 00:38:23,740 but I do remember once I had a strain in 888 00:38:29,100 --> 00:38:26,710 my hand from lifting a very very heavy 889 00:38:31,470 --> 00:38:29,110 object and afterwards it hurt and every 890 00:38:33,500 --> 00:38:31,480 time I open and close my fist it hurt 891 00:38:36,690 --> 00:38:33,510 really bad and I tried all kinds of 892 00:38:39,240 --> 00:38:36,700 liniment sand rub ons things and nothing 893 00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:39,250 ever really helped it but I went into a 894 00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:42,370 hot mineral hot spring somewhere in Utah 895 00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:44,290 I believe it was just as an overnight 896 00:38:50,460 --> 00:38:48,010 thing traveling and the guy who ran this 897 00:38:52,650 --> 00:38:50,470 hotel you know there's this lovely hot 898 00:38:54,540 --> 00:38:52,660 spring up there and I said why don't you 899 00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:54,550 advertise he says well we can't 900 00:38:57,750 --> 00:38:56,050 advertise anymore the Food and Drug 901 00:39:00,210 --> 00:38:57,760 Administration came here and they said 902 00:39:02,730 --> 00:39:00,220 they put me in jail I said we had a 903 00:39:04,950 --> 00:39:02,740 healing hot spring and apparently this 904 00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:04,960 was a place that had the signs healing 905 00:39:10,020 --> 00:39:07,450 hot spring for years and years so I went 906 00:39:12,060 --> 00:39:10,030 up there and I rested in the water and I 907 00:39:14,130 --> 00:39:12,070 got up and walked in walking out and 908 00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:14,140 suddenly I realized that this painful 909 00:39:20,070 --> 00:39:17,770 thing in my hand was totally gone and it 910 00:39:21,690 --> 00:39:20,080 never returned now this is one of the 911 00:39:23,850 --> 00:39:21,700 things they always were advertised in 912 00:39:24,510 --> 00:39:23,860 the in the older advertisement before 913 00:39:27,180 --> 00:39:24,520 the food 914 00:39:29,430 --> 00:39:27,190 drug administration was formed or given 915 00:39:32,340 --> 00:39:29,440 police actions I should say you could 916 00:39:35,430 --> 00:39:32,350 find advertisements for for healing 917 00:39:38,580 --> 00:39:35,440 Springs all over the place and it was 918 00:39:41,970 --> 00:39:38,590 something that marked the landscape of 919 00:39:43,670 --> 00:39:41,980 American society of the United States of 920 00:39:46,590 --> 00:39:43,680 America and they were all over the place 921 00:39:50,100 --> 00:39:46,600 many of them originally used by the 922 00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:50,110 Native Americans as you say and they all 923 00:39:55,110 --> 00:39:53,050 were shut down to the point we're trying 924 00:39:58,050 --> 00:39:55,120 to remember there's one famous one 925 00:40:00,900 --> 00:39:58,060 somewhere in Kentucky or I don't 926 00:40:03,690 --> 00:40:00,910 remember exactly where where it's the 927 00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:03,700 old building very beautiful old building 928 00:40:08,430 --> 00:40:06,490 where people would stay get a room and 929 00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:08,440 so on while they were soaking in the 930 00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:11,410 baths it's like a historical monument 931 00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:14,410 and you can go there and you can look at 932 00:40:20,700 --> 00:40:16,810 this health spa like a tourist and it 933 00:40:22,350 --> 00:40:20,710 roped off the tour guide and you can 934 00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:22,360 look at the water but you're not allowed 935 00:40:29,100 --> 00:40:26,530 to go in it you're forbidden from going 936 00:40:32,070 --> 00:40:29,110 in the wheeling water you can look at it 937 00:40:34,710 --> 00:40:32,080 though I mean it I'm laughing but it's 938 00:40:38,310 --> 00:40:34,720 it's instead we've got these polished 939 00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:38,320 chrome steel and whites and sparkling 940 00:40:43,620 --> 00:40:41,290 white hospitals everywhere and it's 941 00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:43,630 obscene it is really obscene what has 942 00:40:48,660 --> 00:40:46,330 happened I could add to that maybe 943 00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:48,670 you've heard of harry hoxsey yeah the 944 00:40:54,900 --> 00:40:50,890 name does sound familiar but give us a 945 00:40:57,840 --> 00:40:54,910 reminder yeah harry hoxsey was somebody 946 00:41:03,030 --> 00:40:57,850 who had from his father inherited a 947 00:41:06,210 --> 00:41:03,040 recipe for healing from native american 948 00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:06,220 herbs and he was a nun it was not an 949 00:41:11,130 --> 00:41:09,010 educated man he was a I can't remember 950 00:41:14,010 --> 00:41:11,140 what he did but before he got involved 951 00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:14,020 in in using this this Native American 952 00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:15,970 herbal preparation but he started making 953 00:41:20,580 --> 00:41:18,610 this available to people and found that 954 00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:20,590 all kinds of skin problems and even 955 00:41:27,270 --> 00:41:24,490 cancers were cured or I should say that 956 00:41:30,300 --> 00:41:27,280 the tumors disappeared when people used 957 00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:30,310 the recipe of these herbs and he set up 958 00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:32,890 hospital and people flocked to it and it 959 00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:35,290 got known all around the United States 960 00:41:40,770 --> 00:41:38,410 and we at some point in the 1920s 961 00:41:43,230 --> 00:41:40,780 there must have been about a dozen of 962 00:41:45,300 --> 00:41:43,240 the hoxsey clinics all around the United 963 00:41:47,100 --> 00:41:45,310 States and they were using this 964 00:41:49,890 --> 00:41:47,110 preparation and a few other things of 965 00:41:52,380 --> 00:41:49,900 course for healing of cancer and they 966 00:41:54,780 --> 00:41:52,390 were all shut down by the FDA every last 967 00:41:56,220 --> 00:41:54,790 one of them right right yeah that's 968 00:41:58,520 --> 00:41:56,230 where it came up is we had a previous 969 00:42:00,870 --> 00:41:58,530 show where we went down the list of 970 00:42:02,730 --> 00:42:00,880 alternative therapies for cancer or 971 00:42:05,300 --> 00:42:02,740 these stories that you hear and that was 972 00:42:07,500 --> 00:42:05,310 a big one SC acti it was another one oh 973 00:42:09,870 --> 00:42:07,510 and there's no shortage of them really 974 00:42:13,290 --> 00:42:09,880 when you start digging which is so crazy 975 00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:13,300 but to jump over to the cloudbuster 976 00:42:16,650 --> 00:42:14,890 because it's kind of related to water 977 00:42:19,410 --> 00:42:16,660 because it actually needs to be grounded 978 00:42:21,300 --> 00:42:19,420 in living water to work you've had 979 00:42:22,950 --> 00:42:21,310 first-hand experience with this I've 980 00:42:25,770 --> 00:42:22,960 heard you talk about the results it's 981 00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:25,780 pretty amazing that this technology can 982 00:42:31,350 --> 00:42:28,690 just end a drought I've seen videos of 983 00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:31,360 demonstrations it's as real as can be 984 00:42:35,490 --> 00:42:33,490 and I guess you might have even made a 985 00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:35,500 lake in the Sahara Desert is that right 986 00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:38,530 well all that is true when I read 987 00:42:43,410 --> 00:42:40,930 Russia's work the first things I did was 988 00:42:45,630 --> 00:42:43,420 to build accumulators and study it and I 989 00:42:47,700 --> 00:42:45,640 also got this right hand therapy I went 990 00:42:49,530 --> 00:42:47,710 into his right hand therapy which helped 991 00:42:51,810 --> 00:42:49,540 me to see things more clearly 992 00:42:54,930 --> 00:42:51,820 let's put it that way it's an emotional 993 00:42:58,020 --> 00:42:54,940 release therapy method where you any 994 00:43:00,540 --> 00:42:58,030 kind of bottle of emotion you have anger 995 00:43:02,820 --> 00:43:00,550 rage crying whatever you you vent it out 996 00:43:04,980 --> 00:43:02,830 on the couch in a controlled environment 997 00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:04,990 with a therapist who knows what they're 998 00:43:09,240 --> 00:43:07,570 doing so I had that therapy and Wow made 999 00:43:13,380 --> 00:43:09,250 me feel so much better I could breathe 1000 00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:13,390 deeper see clear my goals in life were 1001 00:43:18,150 --> 00:43:16,330 were achievable or suddenly I lost all 1002 00:43:20,370 --> 00:43:18,160 the pessimism about that kind of thing 1003 00:43:22,170 --> 00:43:20,380 so I wound up going to back to the 1004 00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:22,180 University I had graduated high school 1005 00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:24,850 and never went to to the University but 1006 00:43:28,470 --> 00:43:27,130 I decided I want to do this so I was a 1007 00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:28,480 late bloomer I went back to the 1008 00:43:35,310 --> 00:43:32,650 University and I was interested in Reich 1009 00:43:37,070 --> 00:43:35,320 and I told my professors I want to study 1010 00:43:40,010 --> 00:43:37,080 this because 1011 00:43:43,010 --> 00:43:40,020 if Reika is correct then it's a major 1012 00:43:44,570 --> 00:43:43,020 major breakthrough so I found a couple 1013 00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:44,580 of professors at the University of 1014 00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:48,210 Kansas who are interested in this also 1015 00:43:54,340 --> 00:43:51,050 and they they said yes let's do this and 1016 00:43:56,690 --> 00:43:54,350 so we developed a research protocol to 1017 00:44:00,340 --> 00:43:56,700 experimentally Kennelly test the most 1018 00:44:03,590 --> 00:44:00,350 heretical his ideas why go half way 1019 00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:03,600 let's take the the most outlandish thing 1020 00:44:09,050 --> 00:44:05,490 that he claimed which is the cloud 1021 00:44:12,050 --> 00:44:09,060 luster and test it out over one summer I 1022 00:44:14,870 --> 00:44:12,060 built this cloud Buster and it was 1023 00:44:20,690 --> 00:44:14,880 tested out over a period of two years 1024 00:44:22,910 --> 00:44:20,700 in 1977 to 1978 and we tested it out for 1025 00:44:27,860 --> 00:44:22,920 effects upon rainfall and cloud cover 1026 00:44:30,530 --> 00:44:27,870 over the area near the University and lo 1027 00:44:33,470 --> 00:44:30,540 and behold it it it showed it an effect 1028 00:44:35,660 --> 00:44:33,480 a profound effect for boosting of clouds 1029 00:44:39,050 --> 00:44:35,670 and increasing in rainfall within about 1030 00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:39,060 24 hours of the operation and it wasn't 1031 00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:41,370 just isolated to the university area it 1032 00:44:47,090 --> 00:44:44,850 was over the whole state of canvas so it 1033 00:44:49,580 --> 00:44:47,100 had a very wide-ranging influence as 1034 00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:49,590 Reich said it's a triggering device that 1035 00:44:54,890 --> 00:44:52,170 can trigger influences and he was 1036 00:44:57,140 --> 00:44:54,900 arguing that it isn't so much a powerful 1037 00:45:00,140 --> 00:44:57,150 effect of the device itself it's the 1038 00:45:03,410 --> 00:45:00,150 atmosphere has this energy continuum in 1039 00:45:06,140 --> 00:45:03,420 it that is excitable and as the energy 1040 00:45:08,210 --> 00:45:06,150 moves and the atmosphere moves it's like 1041 00:45:11,510 --> 00:45:08,220 there's this bio energetic substrate 1042 00:45:14,770 --> 00:45:11,520 which governs weather and he worked out 1043 00:45:17,330 --> 00:45:14,780 a whole science on this right did so I 1044 00:45:19,340 --> 00:45:17,340 tested it out and by the way I also 1045 00:45:22,100 --> 00:45:19,350 studied with a number of people who had 1046 00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:22,110 years earlier studied Reich and some who 1047 00:45:26,990 --> 00:45:25,290 knew Reich and so I was in a good 1048 00:45:29,950 --> 00:45:27,000 position to learn from the horse's mouth 1049 00:45:34,610 --> 00:45:29,960 directly to the methods and techniques 1050 00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:34,620 and got very good result and published 1051 00:45:40,340 --> 00:45:36,810 it as a master's thesis it got me to a 1052 00:45:42,670 --> 00:45:40,350 master science degree and Wow we thought 1053 00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:42,680 we were in on the ground floor of some 1054 00:45:46,090 --> 00:45:44,970 breakthrough into the universities on 1055 00:45:48,700 --> 00:45:46,100 this 1056 00:45:51,300 --> 00:45:48,710 and I put in actually another year of 1057 00:45:53,710 --> 00:45:51,310 research making new findings and 1058 00:45:55,420 --> 00:45:53,720 documentation of this phenomenon Reich 1059 00:45:58,480 --> 00:45:55,430 made all kinds of experiments and 1060 00:46:02,020 --> 00:45:58,490 published them on his cloud busting work 1061 00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:02,030 but he never had the access to the kind 1062 00:46:08,140 --> 00:46:05,210 of research instrumentation such as 1063 00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:08,150 weather stations and right on-site and 1064 00:46:12,700 --> 00:46:10,610 different kinds of electrometers and so 1065 00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:12,710 on to test out what was going on well I 1066 00:46:16,210 --> 00:46:14,570 did while I was at the University so I 1067 00:46:19,270 --> 00:46:16,220 was able to do a lot of things like that 1068 00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:19,280 and what happened was is that the people 1069 00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:21,650 at the National Academy got wind of what 1070 00:46:27,010 --> 00:46:25,370 I had done and instead of with saying 1071 00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:27,020 wow this is great how can we support 1072 00:46:32,650 --> 00:46:30,410 your work they called the Dean of the 1073 00:46:35,230 --> 00:46:32,660 University and told them if you guys 1074 00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:35,240 want to get one more penny of research 1075 00:46:39,220 --> 00:46:37,370 funding from the National Academy you'll 1076 00:46:43,570 --> 00:46:39,230 find a way to get rid of that DeMeo 1077 00:46:46,090 --> 00:46:43,580 study and so I was called into the 1078 00:46:48,370 --> 00:46:46,100 office one day and all these somber 1079 00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:48,380 professors you know some of my 1080 00:46:54,460 --> 00:46:51,170 supporters told me well we can't support 1081 00:46:56,350 --> 00:46:54,470 this work openly anymore so I was 1082 00:46:59,020 --> 00:46:56,360 dejected but I wound up doing another 1083 00:47:00,970 --> 00:46:59,030 study for my PhD on deserts and 1084 00:47:03,460 --> 00:47:00,980 desertification it was actually a 1085 00:47:06,250 --> 00:47:03,470 breakthrough study of its own actually I 1086 00:47:09,370 --> 00:47:06,260 documented what was the biggest natural 1087 00:47:11,830 --> 00:47:09,380 real climate change that had occurred 1088 00:47:14,500 --> 00:47:11,840 since the end of the last ice age which 1089 00:47:17,410 --> 00:47:14,510 was not one in temperature but one in 1090 00:47:21,130 --> 00:47:17,420 rainfall parameters which created the 1091 00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:21,140 big Sahara and other Asian deserts that 1092 00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:23,210 are connected to it the what I call 1093 00:47:29,140 --> 00:47:27,290 Sahar Asia and that study is still not 1094 00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:29,150 widely known because it's extremely 1095 00:47:33,550 --> 00:47:31,010 controversial in and of itself 1096 00:47:35,590 --> 00:47:33,560 yes actually figured maybe we could 1097 00:47:40,540 --> 00:47:35,600 touch on that just because the subtitle 1098 00:47:43,330 --> 00:47:40,550 for that book is the 4000 BCE origins of 1099 00:47:45,310 --> 00:47:43,340 child abuse sex repression warfare and 1100 00:47:49,170 --> 00:47:45,320 social violence in the deserts of the 1101 00:47:51,190 --> 00:47:49,180 old world and it seems pretty epic and 1102 00:47:55,210 --> 00:47:51,200 definitely Reich was very much about 1103 00:47:56,920 --> 00:47:55,220 human nature and re-establishing what 1104 00:47:59,650 --> 00:47:56,930 that's all about as opposed to the 1105 00:48:02,470 --> 00:47:59,660 violence you know we're just 1106 00:48:04,510 --> 00:48:02,480 of apes and man suits now and we still 1107 00:48:06,849 --> 00:48:04,520 have these reptilian brains and it's all 1108 00:48:08,740 --> 00:48:06,859 violence and and scarcity that's not 1109 00:48:11,980 --> 00:48:08,750 necessarily the case is what your study 1110 00:48:14,710 --> 00:48:11,990 seems to indicate well it very clearly 1111 00:48:17,370 --> 00:48:14,720 indicated it and it also showed that the 1112 00:48:21,190 --> 00:48:17,380 origins of human violence is most 1113 00:48:25,390 --> 00:48:21,200 identifiable starting around 4000 to 1114 00:48:29,740 --> 00:48:25,400 3500 BC within these big large desert 1115 00:48:33,039 --> 00:48:29,750 areas which prior to 4000 BC were very 1116 00:48:34,779 --> 00:48:33,049 lush wet garden environments and you 1117 00:48:36,609 --> 00:48:34,789 know I'm not alone in this there are a 1118 00:48:38,620 --> 00:48:36,619 couple of other researchers who have 1119 00:48:41,529 --> 00:48:38,630 done research on this a guy named 1120 00:48:43,900 --> 00:48:41,539 Griffin's Rianna Eisler marry again 1121 00:48:46,890 --> 00:48:43,910 Buddhist they all talked about how the 1122 00:48:50,140 --> 00:48:46,900 earliest human societies were peaceful 1123 00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:50,150 egalitarian violence isn't the natural 1124 00:48:56,559 --> 00:48:52,970 human condition but if you look around 1125 00:48:59,470 --> 00:48:56,569 today it seems to be so what's going on 1126 00:49:02,740 --> 00:48:59,480 there what happened around this 4,000 1127 00:49:06,089 --> 00:49:02,750 marker date and what I showed is that 1128 00:49:09,010 --> 00:49:06,099 the archaeological and paleo 1129 00:49:11,829 --> 00:49:09,020 climatological evidence shows massive 1130 00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:11,839 environmental changes which then 1131 00:49:19,059 --> 00:49:15,490 affected the earliest human societies by 1132 00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:19,069 starvation by famine which created 1133 00:49:24,460 --> 00:49:22,130 massive migrations massive deaths the 1134 00:49:27,190 --> 00:49:24,470 abandonment of the earliest city-states 1135 00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:27,200 and villages and you can see the results 1136 00:49:31,510 --> 00:49:29,450 of this in some of the dry lands of the 1137 00:49:33,490 --> 00:49:31,520 Sahara society called the garamantes 1138 00:49:35,589 --> 00:49:33,500 which very well developed civil 1139 00:49:38,349 --> 00:49:35,599 civilization and today there's nothing 1140 00:49:40,779 --> 00:49:38,359 left of it some places in Arabia are 1141 00:49:44,019 --> 00:49:40,789 like that the old Sabah II in society 1142 00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:44,029 which built the first big huge dam for 1143 00:49:49,809 --> 00:49:46,130 water irrigation and had a big 1144 00:49:52,870 --> 00:49:49,819 productive trade society based on 1145 00:49:57,819 --> 00:49:52,880 agriculture and so on totally wiped out 1146 00:50:00,279 --> 00:49:57,829 once the climate went from wet to dry so 1147 00:50:03,250 --> 00:50:00,289 my work saw her Asia did a global study 1148 00:50:05,260 --> 00:50:03,260 on that basis from the historical and 1149 00:50:07,720 --> 00:50:05,270 the archaeological point of view but 1150 00:50:10,269 --> 00:50:07,730 also from the more contemporary point of 1151 00:50:13,089 --> 00:50:10,279 view there was a part of my spending 1152 00:50:13,660 --> 00:50:13,099 which was 1,000 over a thousand 1153 00:50:15,370 --> 00:50:13,670 different call 1154 00:50:18,849 --> 00:50:15,380 through some around the world plotted on 1155 00:50:20,819 --> 00:50:18,859 the world map and using the databases 1156 00:50:24,460 --> 00:50:20,829 from the ethnographers and 1157 00:50:26,680 --> 00:50:24,470 anthropologists that showed that all the 1158 00:50:30,130 --> 00:50:26,690 characteristics of violent societies 1159 00:50:34,150 --> 00:50:30,140 were at their peak worst condition 1160 00:50:36,220 --> 00:50:34,160 within this existing Sahara Desert and 1161 00:50:39,160 --> 00:50:36,230 the deserts of the Middle East and 1162 00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:39,170 Central Asia and you can think of for 1163 00:50:44,230 --> 00:50:41,690 example the Mongols or the Huns 1164 00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:44,240 or you know sad to say the modern 1165 00:50:50,140 --> 00:50:47,210 Islamic societies are the carriers of 1166 00:50:51,940 --> 00:50:50,150 the most violent cultural conditions and 1167 00:50:54,789 --> 00:50:51,950 just think about how they treat their 1168 00:50:56,799 --> 00:50:54,799 women is one example and by violent you 1169 00:50:58,900 --> 00:50:56,809 know in the in the right hand sense 1170 00:51:01,660 --> 00:50:58,910 we're talking about the most horribly 1171 00:51:04,030 --> 00:51:01,670 sex repressive cultures now the early 1172 00:51:06,549 --> 00:51:04,040 peaceful societies as well as the ones 1173 00:51:10,359 --> 00:51:06,559 that survived into relatively recent 1174 00:51:12,690 --> 00:51:10,369 years were not sex repressive nor were 1175 00:51:15,730 --> 00:51:12,700 they life insurance they had no 1176 00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:15,740 pornography or wife-swapping and they 1177 00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:18,410 weren't screwing right and left 1178 00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:22,010 everybody it was a very orderly happy 1179 00:51:27,940 --> 00:51:24,890 society but they had a very permissive 1180 00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:27,950 society with respect to sexuality they 1181 00:51:31,359 --> 00:51:29,690 didn't have and this is where it gets 1182 00:51:33,160 --> 00:51:31,369 controversial they didn't have 1183 00:51:34,390 --> 00:51:33,170 homosexuals they weren't any and it 1184 00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:34,400 wasn't because they killed them or 1185 00:51:39,700 --> 00:51:36,890 something like that it's just that they 1186 00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:39,710 allowed all the young people like Romeo 1187 00:51:44,620 --> 00:51:41,690 and Juliet to have their love affairs 1188 00:51:46,710 --> 00:51:44,630 and this was look the adults look back 1189 00:51:50,859 --> 00:51:46,720 upon those early times with much 1190 00:51:53,230 --> 00:51:50,869 pleasure as opposed to today where early 1191 00:51:56,440 --> 00:51:53,240 puberty is one of great anxiety and 1192 00:51:59,049 --> 00:51:56,450 terror and fear and sadness I mean 1193 00:52:01,900 --> 00:51:59,059 sexual exploitation and pornography and 1194 00:52:05,180 --> 00:52:01,910 so on you know you as right pointed out 1195 00:52:08,359 --> 00:52:05,190 the societies that have the bizarre 1196 00:52:11,390 --> 00:52:08,369 upset kind of sexual behavior they are 1197 00:52:13,579 --> 00:52:11,400 the sex repressive in the sense that the 1198 00:52:15,650 --> 00:52:13,589 love affair of Romeo and Juliet is 1199 00:52:17,180 --> 00:52:15,660 pretty much suppressed everywhere you 1200 00:52:19,549 --> 00:52:17,190 have to realize that in the original 1201 00:52:22,250 --> 00:52:19,559 Shakespeare Romeo and Juliet were about 1202 00:52:24,680 --> 00:52:22,260 16 years old they were not older teens 1203 00:52:27,020 --> 00:52:24,690 they were just at the point of puberty I 1204 00:52:30,049 --> 00:52:27,030 mean why does nature put that strong 1205 00:52:33,890 --> 00:52:30,059 strong impulse into young people and 1206 00:52:36,289 --> 00:52:33,900 then societies repress it and that's 1207 00:52:38,240 --> 00:52:36,299 where the chaos comes from yes I was 1208 00:52:41,210 --> 00:52:38,250 gonna say it's definitely a chaotic 1209 00:52:43,880 --> 00:52:41,220 environment and not really the best one 1210 00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:43,890 for going through those stages of 1211 00:52:48,589 --> 00:52:46,410 puberty and not that I think the 1212 00:52:52,789 --> 00:52:48,599 sexuality stuff is nearly as interesting 1213 00:52:56,390 --> 00:52:52,799 as the cloud busting or Ogrin energy 1214 00:52:59,150 --> 00:52:56,400 itself but I guess I would be inclined 1215 00:53:01,279 --> 00:52:59,160 to to push back a little bit I mean I'm 1216 00:53:04,039 --> 00:53:01,289 no expert but I've heard people saying 1217 00:53:06,859 --> 00:53:04,049 that there was a scientific basis that 1218 00:53:08,630 --> 00:53:06,869 homosexuality does go back about as far 1219 00:53:11,829 --> 00:53:08,640 as humanity goes back and you're saying 1220 00:53:14,650 --> 00:53:11,839 that maybe no it's that's not the case 1221 00:53:18,470 --> 00:53:14,660 well there are there are the more recent 1222 00:53:19,789 --> 00:53:18,480 collection of peaceful societies which I 1223 00:53:22,460 --> 00:53:19,799 was able to identify in the 1224 00:53:25,180 --> 00:53:22,470 cross-cultural literature had no 1225 00:53:29,329 --> 00:53:25,190 homosexuals that was the Trobriand 1226 00:53:33,710 --> 00:53:29,339 Islanders of Melanesia it was the Morea 1227 00:53:36,589 --> 00:53:33,720 peoples of eastern India the mozu people 1228 00:53:38,029 --> 00:53:36,599 of western China is it possible that 1229 00:53:40,099 --> 00:53:38,039 maybe it just wasn't written about 1230 00:53:42,799 --> 00:53:40,109 because it was so accepted and not a 1231 00:53:46,700 --> 00:53:42,809 thing even worth documenting because it 1232 00:53:49,339 --> 00:53:46,710 was just such a non-issue well then one 1233 00:53:51,559 --> 00:53:49,349 has to presume that anthropologists are 1234 00:53:54,230 --> 00:53:51,569 so blinded and blinkered that they 1235 00:53:56,329 --> 00:53:54,240 somehow miss this which i don't think is 1236 00:53:57,799 --> 00:53:56,339 the case I mean if you look at the 1237 00:54:00,170 --> 00:53:57,809 record of where they're talking about 1238 00:54:02,539 --> 00:54:00,180 other kinds of sexual behavior they're 1239 00:54:05,510 --> 00:54:02,549 pretty good at recording things I mean I 1240 00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:05,520 mean we know that homosexuality exists 1241 00:54:10,099 --> 00:54:07,770 in most all of the modern civilizations 1242 00:54:11,780 --> 00:54:10,109 but also does adolescent sexual 1243 00:54:14,270 --> 00:54:11,790 repression 1244 00:54:17,660 --> 00:54:14,280 I'm not arguing for pedophilia here by 1245 00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:17,670 any means pedophiles are sick people so 1246 00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:20,370 it's a this whole idea of adults having 1247 00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:22,410 a preoccupation in the sexuality of 1248 00:54:26,870 --> 00:54:24,450 their children to the point of meddling 1249 00:54:28,640 --> 00:54:26,880 with it or wanting to participate in it 1250 00:54:30,710 --> 00:54:28,650 this is a product of the sex or 1251 00:54:32,990 --> 00:54:30,720 oppressive cultures right right 1252 00:54:36,830 --> 00:54:33,000 it's definitely dicey conversation but 1253 00:54:38,930 --> 00:54:36,840 it's it's a given that kids around 16 or 1254 00:54:41,420 --> 00:54:38,940 going through puberty and yet we have 1255 00:54:43,670 --> 00:54:41,430 this abstinence-only attitude and we put 1256 00:54:45,260 --> 00:54:43,680 blinders on and this causes all kinds of 1257 00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:45,270 problems I mean they're getting all 1258 00:54:49,580 --> 00:54:47,490 backed up I mean we know we know this 1259 00:54:52,130 --> 00:54:49,590 and it should be addressed definitely 1260 00:54:55,280 --> 00:54:52,140 there's got to be some way to address it 1261 00:54:57,980 --> 00:54:55,290 I'm probably not the guy to even go down 1262 00:54:59,810 --> 00:54:57,990 that road well my study you know this is 1263 00:55:03,230 --> 00:54:59,820 another book that I would recommend is 1264 00:55:06,710 --> 00:55:03,240 my study saw her Asia that's the title 1265 00:55:10,580 --> 00:55:06,720 of the book like Sahara and Asia linked 1266 00:55:13,400 --> 00:55:10,590 together Sahar Asia or Russia's book the 1267 00:55:17,090 --> 00:55:13,410 function of the orgasm he was the top 1268 00:55:20,300 --> 00:55:17,100 clinician to do that Oh a Russia sexual 1269 00:55:22,490 --> 00:55:20,310 revolution was a very soft sexual 1270 00:55:25,370 --> 00:55:22,500 revolution it was not what we see going 1271 00:55:27,020 --> 00:55:25,380 on today I mean today we got this gender 1272 00:55:29,120 --> 00:55:27,030 ISM stuff where if you use the wrong 1273 00:55:32,210 --> 00:55:29,130 pronoun or like Rowling you know you 1274 00:55:34,400 --> 00:55:32,220 criticize the gay mafia which it is a 1275 00:55:36,980 --> 00:55:34,410 real mafia nowadays you can't say 1276 00:55:40,130 --> 00:55:36,990 anything critical even of their 1277 00:55:42,770 --> 00:55:40,140 castration agendas they're the surgical 1278 00:55:45,170 --> 00:55:42,780 castration of children like god this is 1279 00:55:47,180 --> 00:55:45,180 insane yeah you mentioned that earlier 1280 00:55:49,970 --> 00:55:47,190 and I didn't really say anything but now 1281 00:55:52,130 --> 00:55:49,980 that it's come up again I mean there's 1282 00:55:54,350 --> 00:55:52,140 definitely a lot of agenda driven stuff 1283 00:55:57,260 --> 00:55:54,360 in this area that you're talking about 1284 00:56:01,550 --> 00:55:57,270 but how often does that really happen 1285 00:56:04,340 --> 00:56:01,560 the surgical castration of children well 1286 00:56:06,760 --> 00:56:04,350 when you talk about a child who a boy 1287 00:56:10,280 --> 00:56:06,770 who says well I'm feeling like a girl 1288 00:56:12,230 --> 00:56:10,290 well a lot of young kids saved such 1289 00:56:14,270 --> 00:56:12,240 things or a girl says I feel more like a 1290 00:56:16,460 --> 00:56:14,280 boy I wish I was a boy or something like 1291 00:56:18,590 --> 00:56:16,470 that when the push of puberty comes 1292 00:56:21,710 --> 00:56:18,600 ninety five percent of those cases those 1293 00:56:23,720 --> 00:56:21,720 kids suddenly become the boy and the 1294 00:56:25,090 --> 00:56:23,730 girl that their biology is determining 1295 00:56:27,820 --> 00:56:25,100 but the 1296 00:56:31,120 --> 00:56:27,830 - activist groups want to suppress that 1297 00:56:33,700 --> 00:56:31,130 by giving the pre-pubertal children the 1298 00:56:35,050 --> 00:56:33,710 hormone suppressing drugs and that's 1299 00:56:37,210 --> 00:56:35,060 what they do they give them hormone 1300 00:56:40,360 --> 00:56:37,220 suppressing drugs and then a brainwash 1301 00:56:43,060 --> 00:56:40,370 where those kids are told oh you're not 1302 00:56:45,160 --> 00:56:43,070 your natural biological sex and after 1303 00:56:46,600 --> 00:56:45,170 they turn to the age of consent the 1304 00:56:49,540 --> 00:56:46,610 hormone drugs are going to be 1305 00:56:53,110 --> 00:56:49,550 supplemented with a castration surgical 1306 00:56:56,200 --> 00:56:53,120 operation now it's not a high number of 1307 00:56:58,330 --> 00:56:56,210 kids right now but these things never 1308 00:57:01,210 --> 00:56:58,340 remain static if you go back to the 1309 00:57:04,120 --> 00:57:01,220 1800s in America only a small percentage 1310 00:57:06,490 --> 00:57:04,130 of Jews were circumcising their children 1311 00:57:07,990 --> 00:57:06,500 but it caught on with the medical 1312 00:57:09,730 --> 00:57:08,000 profession they can make a lot of money 1313 00:57:12,640 --> 00:57:09,740 from it and they don't really give a 1314 00:57:16,930 --> 00:57:12,650 damn about the biological naturalness of 1315 00:57:18,850 --> 00:57:16,940 the foreskin or of genitalia today so 1316 00:57:21,040 --> 00:57:18,860 the subset of the of the medical 1317 00:57:24,400 --> 00:57:21,050 profession made a lot of money and 1318 00:57:27,520 --> 00:57:24,410 peaked out where 80% of all American 1319 00:57:30,760 --> 00:57:27,530 boys were being circumcised around the 1320 00:57:32,110 --> 00:57:30,770 time of the 1950s and 60s yeah yeah I 1321 00:57:34,570 --> 00:57:32,120 think that's a damn shame 1322 00:57:37,510 --> 00:57:34,580 damn shame for sure so it went from zero 1323 00:57:40,840 --> 00:57:37,520 or near zero to 80% within about a 1324 00:57:43,120 --> 00:57:40,850 hundred years so I I look at this stuff 1325 00:57:46,120 --> 00:57:43,130 that's going on now and I have to ask I 1326 00:57:49,410 --> 00:57:46,130 feel I'm obligated to say something in 1327 00:57:52,090 --> 00:57:49,420 defensive of the kids natural biological 1328 00:57:54,310 --> 00:57:52,100 sexuality you know what is really 1329 00:57:56,950 --> 00:57:54,320 offensive is that if you dare say these 1330 00:57:59,830 --> 00:57:56,960 kinds of things to publicly that 1331 00:58:02,050 --> 00:57:59,840 suddenly you get stomped on you know I 1332 00:58:05,020 --> 00:58:02,060 mean what happened to rolling what's 1333 00:58:06,910 --> 00:58:05,030 going on I know not every homosexual 1334 00:58:09,610 --> 00:58:06,920 person agrees with this stuff there's a 1335 00:58:12,010 --> 00:58:09,620 lot of gay men I know or at least a few 1336 00:58:14,800 --> 00:58:12,020 who are deeply offended by this 1337 00:58:16,930 --> 00:58:14,810 transgender stuff and you know of course 1338 00:58:17,530 --> 00:58:16,940 they're they're taking over women's 1339 00:58:19,720 --> 00:58:17,540 sports 1340 00:58:22,270 --> 00:58:19,730 these men biological men they're 1341 00:58:24,040 --> 00:58:22,280 stronger faster they run into women's 1342 00:58:25,990 --> 00:58:24,050 sports they say I'm a woman even though 1343 00:58:27,730 --> 00:58:26,000 I look like a man with a beard and 1344 00:58:31,180 --> 00:58:27,740 everything and they win all the medals 1345 00:58:32,440 --> 00:58:31,190 and it's a catastrophe for women but 1346 00:58:34,750 --> 00:58:32,450 they're just not aware of it because 1347 00:58:37,400 --> 00:58:34,760 most of the reports on this are censored 1348 00:58:39,680 --> 00:58:37,410 from the mainstream media 1349 00:58:41,480 --> 00:58:39,690 ruling and so on that she's not the 1350 00:58:44,750 --> 00:58:41,490 first one to be banished from the 1351 00:58:46,640 --> 00:58:44,760 internet platforms for daring to say 1352 00:58:49,640 --> 00:58:46,650 something politically incorrect 1353 00:58:51,350 --> 00:58:49,650 you know I'm seven years old now I mean 1354 00:58:53,270 --> 00:58:51,360 how old do I have to be before I can 1355 00:58:55,580 --> 00:58:53,280 dare to speak out a gap about these 1356 00:58:58,820 --> 00:58:55,590 things political correctness is killing 1357 00:59:00,950 --> 00:58:58,830 us it is it is that hey I say the best 1358 00:59:03,350 --> 00:59:00,960 policy is doctor leave those kids alone 1359 00:59:05,450 --> 00:59:03,360 you know and I think they should and I 1360 00:59:08,000 --> 00:59:05,460 did want to ask you about the 1361 00:59:10,730 --> 00:59:08,010 cloudbuster a little more because the 1362 00:59:12,920 --> 00:59:10,740 conversation is connected to the UFO 1363 00:59:15,470 --> 00:59:12,930 question not only did Reich think that 1364 00:59:17,630 --> 00:59:15,480 they were somehow attracted to Oregon or 1365 00:59:19,790 --> 00:59:17,640 the use of his cloudbuster 1366 00:59:21,650 --> 00:59:19,800 you can kind of confirm that from your 1367 00:59:23,750 --> 00:59:21,660 own experience I understand and I'm just 1368 00:59:25,880 --> 00:59:23,760 curious what you think is going on here 1369 00:59:30,410 --> 00:59:25,890 it's very odd that these two things 1370 00:59:33,620 --> 00:59:30,420 would converge well Reich came to the 1371 00:59:35,510 --> 00:59:33,630 conclusion that he was working out in 1372 00:59:38,060 --> 00:59:35,520 Arizona doing a desert greening 1373 00:59:39,950 --> 00:59:38,070 experiment and by the way I'll come back 1374 00:59:42,710 --> 00:59:39,960 to my own desert greening experiments 1375 00:59:44,960 --> 00:59:42,720 momentarily but Reich was observing 1376 00:59:47,000 --> 00:59:44,970 first of all that he could he could 1377 00:59:49,610 --> 00:59:47,010 bring rain in the Arizona deserts and 1378 00:59:52,970 --> 00:59:49,620 restore a lot of the grass growth in 1379 00:59:55,340 --> 00:59:52,980 areas where it was just barren and while 1380 00:59:57,850 --> 00:59:55,350 he was doing this work he observed UFOs 1381 01:00:01,430 --> 00:59:57,860 he observed these luminous objects were 1382 01:00:03,350 --> 01:00:01,440 violent moving he made photographs of 1383 01:00:05,750 --> 01:00:03,360 them showing that the tracks that they 1384 01:00:08,600 --> 01:00:05,760 made in the night sky were different 1385 01:00:10,640 --> 01:00:08,610 from the stars and this was all before 1386 01:00:12,260 --> 01:00:10,650 the satellites there weren't any 1387 01:00:14,330 --> 01:00:12,270 satellites up there nowadays nowadays 1388 01:00:15,590 --> 01:00:14,340 you look up you see things moving you 1389 01:00:17,330 --> 01:00:15,600 don't know what it is because it could 1390 01:00:20,210 --> 01:00:17,340 be a satellite and most of the things 1391 01:00:22,070 --> 01:00:20,220 you see are probably satellites but 1392 01:00:23,540 --> 01:00:22,080 Reich was seeing these things he was 1393 01:00:26,480 --> 01:00:23,550 documenting them he made a few 1394 01:00:28,160 --> 01:00:26,490 photographs of things and he claimed 1395 01:00:29,900 --> 01:00:28,170 that they were unidentified flying 1396 01:00:33,110 --> 01:00:29,910 objects he had read some of the early 1397 01:00:36,890 --> 01:00:33,120 books like that of Kehoe Ripple's book 1398 01:00:40,130 --> 01:00:36,900 if you read RuPaul's book Karl roopa was 1399 01:00:42,740 --> 01:00:40,140 an Air Force officer who was ordered to 1400 01:00:45,380 --> 01:00:42,750 make a study of the UFO phenomenon for 1401 01:00:47,360 --> 01:00:45,390 the US Air Force and it was called 1402 01:00:49,970 --> 01:00:47,370 Project Blue Book if you know anything 1403 01:00:51,230 --> 01:00:49,980 about the UFO history then everybody 1404 01:00:53,090 --> 01:00:51,240 knows about Project 1405 01:00:55,609 --> 01:00:53,100 book and in there he talks about a 1406 01:00:57,920 --> 01:00:55,619 scientist in the Arizona deserts who was 1407 01:01:00,710 --> 01:00:57,930 making all these observations and 1408 01:01:02,720 --> 01:01:00,720 documentation and that's wilheimer ike 1409 01:01:05,359 --> 01:01:02,730 he doesn't mention write by name but it 1410 01:01:07,970 --> 01:01:05,369 seems it almost certain that this was 1411 01:01:10,490 --> 01:01:07,980 right because he was there he was making 1412 01:01:12,080 --> 01:01:10,500 observations he was contacting the 1413 01:01:14,720 --> 01:01:12,090 different military bases and 1414 01:01:17,420 --> 01:01:14,730 headquarters to try and tell them about 1415 01:01:19,400 --> 01:01:17,430 what he was seeing and he also pointed 1416 01:01:23,210 --> 01:01:19,410 the cloud buster at these things and 1417 01:01:25,400 --> 01:01:23,220 they tended to dim out and move away the 1418 01:01:27,980 --> 01:01:25,410 cloud buster device works on the oregon 1419 01:01:30,710 --> 01:01:27,990 energy principles he was arguing that 1420 01:01:34,460 --> 01:01:30,720 the ufos must be powered by oregon 1421 01:01:37,100 --> 01:01:34,470 energy or the ether what's called by the 1422 01:01:41,210 --> 01:01:37,110 older name that the ether organ was 1423 01:01:44,420 --> 01:01:41,220 somehow what was powering these UFOs so 1424 01:01:47,720 --> 01:01:44,430 Wow this is a loaded group of questions 1425 01:01:49,970 --> 01:01:47,730 but it also is a loaded group of 1426 01:01:52,810 --> 01:01:49,980 opportunities and possibilities that 1427 01:01:56,390 --> 01:01:52,820 somehow organ energy functions might be 1428 01:01:59,540 --> 01:01:56,400 underlying gravity might be underlying 1429 01:02:02,000 --> 01:01:59,550 some kind of a motor force in nature and 1430 01:02:03,770 --> 01:02:02,010 Reich also built a small little device 1431 01:02:05,900 --> 01:02:03,780 she called it the Oregon motor and 1432 01:02:08,990 --> 01:02:05,910 you've got this small little motor to 1433 01:02:11,090 --> 01:02:09,000 turn by using the oregon accumulator so 1434 01:02:13,090 --> 01:02:11,100 that all this stuff is published we have 1435 01:02:16,130 --> 01:02:13,100 another book called heretics notebook 1436 01:02:18,020 --> 01:02:16,140 which carries several papers on this 1437 01:02:20,540 --> 01:02:18,030 subject including one about my own 1438 01:02:22,820 --> 01:02:20,550 personal UFO observations because i've 1439 01:02:27,890 --> 01:02:22,830 seen when i was out doing work in the 1440 01:02:30,680 --> 01:02:27,900 deserts of Arizona also overseas in 1441 01:02:32,930 --> 01:02:30,690 Israel and in Africa doing it this work 1442 01:02:36,020 --> 01:02:32,940 in some of the most desolate places in 1443 01:02:38,410 --> 01:02:36,030 the planet and you could see you could 1444 01:02:40,670 --> 01:02:38,420 occasionally see these things and 1445 01:02:44,480 --> 01:02:40,680 sometimes I've seen things that had 1446 01:02:47,240 --> 01:02:44,490 moved in non-newtonian ways you know 1447 01:02:49,940 --> 01:02:47,250 with right angle turns or with discs 1448 01:02:53,740 --> 01:02:49,950 like shapes that tumbled end-over-end 1449 01:02:56,180 --> 01:02:53,750 like a plate a saucer being flicked 1450 01:02:59,090 --> 01:02:56,190 things of that nature which didn't make 1451 01:03:01,670 --> 01:02:59,100 any sense especially the silent nature 1452 01:03:04,040 --> 01:03:01,680 of it we've seen that here in Oregon for 1453 01:03:05,120 --> 01:03:04,050 God's sake so things like that looked 1454 01:03:07,370 --> 01:03:05,130 like a big 1455 01:03:09,890 --> 01:03:07,380 transport airplane I mean at least the 1456 01:03:11,329 --> 01:03:09,900 lights you'd think it was a transport 1457 01:03:13,009 --> 01:03:11,339 airplane from the lights but then it 1458 01:03:16,519 --> 01:03:13,019 flies directly overhead and there's no 1459 01:03:18,890 --> 01:03:16,529 sound no sound at all so what's that 1460 01:03:20,870 --> 01:03:18,900 that's it's not mean it's too slow to be 1461 01:03:23,569 --> 01:03:20,880 a satellite it's too big to be a 1462 01:03:25,069 --> 01:03:23,579 satellite but totally silent 1463 01:03:27,200 --> 01:03:25,079 now of course I'm not the only one to 1464 01:03:29,539 --> 01:03:27,210 see these kind of things with the advent 1465 01:03:31,339 --> 01:03:29,549 of the cell phone all kinds of images 1466 01:03:34,220 --> 01:03:31,349 are being photographed right and left 1467 01:03:36,519 --> 01:03:34,230 and you probably have seen those videos 1468 01:03:39,499 --> 01:03:36,529 that were released by the air force of 1469 01:03:41,930 --> 01:03:39,509 some chases by high-performance jets 1470 01:03:44,359 --> 01:03:41,940 trying to catch up to these things so 1471 01:03:46,759 --> 01:03:44,369 you know there's there's an opportunity 1472 01:03:48,710 --> 01:03:46,769 for the researchers who haven't 1473 01:03:51,109 --> 01:03:48,720 interested to learn about what Reich did 1474 01:03:54,289 --> 01:03:51,119 and the whole thing that I found with 1475 01:03:56,210 --> 01:03:54,299 the ether is that what I'm arguing for 1476 01:03:58,630 --> 01:03:56,220 in my book on the dynamic ether of 1477 01:04:01,940 --> 01:03:58,640 cosmic space is that the ether ISM 1478 01:04:05,630 --> 01:04:01,950 material it moves matter because of a 1479 01:04:08,839 --> 01:04:05,640 basic frictional interaction and that it 1480 01:04:11,870 --> 01:04:08,849 vertexes it moves in a vortex spiral by 1481 01:04:15,259 --> 01:04:11,880 its own very nature and in so doing it 1482 01:04:18,009 --> 01:04:15,269 grabs on to matter and therefore you've 1483 01:04:21,200 --> 01:04:18,019 got the gravitational vortex 1484 01:04:24,170 --> 01:04:21,210 gravitational properties which come 1485 01:04:27,859 --> 01:04:24,180 directly from the ethos properties and 1486 01:04:32,270 --> 01:04:27,869 its motions so for example gravity here 1487 01:04:34,820 --> 01:04:32,280 on earth is due to the two 1488 01:04:37,880 --> 01:04:34,830 motion of the ether coming down from 1489 01:04:41,030 --> 01:04:37,890 space down to the earth surface and 1490 01:04:41,840 --> 01:04:41,040 carrying matter with it that's that's 1491 01:04:44,990 --> 01:04:41,850 the theory 1492 01:04:47,510 --> 01:04:45,000 so I outlined the evidence as best as I 1493 01:04:50,090 --> 01:04:47,520 could in that book and I think there's a 1494 01:04:52,160 --> 01:04:50,100 number of scientists who have come to 1495 01:04:55,880 --> 01:04:52,170 very similar kind of conclusions based 1496 01:04:58,670 --> 01:04:55,890 upon their own independent work indeed 1497 01:05:02,510 --> 01:04:58,680 yeah it's a fascinating subject that 1498 01:05:05,300 --> 01:05:02,520 definitely needs more study well man 1499 01:05:07,370 --> 01:05:05,310 this has been really fun you've done so 1500 01:05:10,190 --> 01:05:07,380 much great work both of these books are 1501 01:05:12,140 --> 01:05:10,200 great front to back breakdowns of these 1502 01:05:13,280 --> 01:05:12,150 energies and their functions in the 1503 01:05:16,040 --> 01:05:13,290 history of keeping them out of 1504 01:05:17,840 --> 01:05:16,050 mainstream science are there any new 1505 01:05:19,400 --> 01:05:17,850 experiments or areas where you're going 1506 01:05:22,910 --> 01:05:19,410 to be focusing your talents or 1507 01:05:25,370 --> 01:05:22,920 attentions to next well as you know I as 1508 01:05:28,550 --> 01:05:25,380 I mentioned I'm investigating this or on 1509 01:05:30,890 --> 01:05:28,560 motor question that right did another 1510 01:05:33,050 --> 01:05:30,900 breakthrough scientists in my opinion is 1511 01:05:36,230 --> 01:05:33,060 the work of Townsend Brown maybe you've 1512 01:05:36,620 --> 01:05:36,240 heard of him the guy with the gravit 1513 01:05:39,290 --> 01:05:36,630 oars 1514 01:05:41,540 --> 01:05:39,300 I'm doing a little bit of investigation 1515 01:05:44,090 --> 01:05:41,550 of that and also on the water 1516 01:05:47,030 --> 01:05:44,100 structuring questions so those three 1517 01:05:50,120 --> 01:05:47,040 areas take up what free time I have at 1518 01:05:52,040 --> 01:05:50,130 the laboratory here and I think are at 1519 01:05:54,520 --> 01:05:52,050 the cutting edge really of modern 1520 01:05:56,600 --> 01:05:54,530 scientific research absolutely although 1521 01:05:59,720 --> 01:05:56,610 you wouldn't you wouldn't know it by 1522 01:06:01,640 --> 01:05:59,730 reading the mainstream journals right 1523 01:06:04,760 --> 01:06:01,650 well hey if you crack that flying saucer 1524 01:06:06,950 --> 01:06:04,770 case we'll have to do this again I'll 1525 01:06:09,680 --> 01:06:06,960 come visit you and we can do it in 1526 01:06:11,390 --> 01:06:09,690 person I love it I love it well man I 1527 01:06:13,130 --> 01:06:11,400 really appreciate the time and your 1528 01:06:15,230 --> 01:06:13,140 efforts before we go do remind the 1529 01:06:17,270 --> 01:06:15,240 people about your website the books or 1530 01:06:18,680 --> 01:06:17,280 any appearances or demonstrations you 1531 01:06:21,290 --> 01:06:18,690 might have coming up that they could 1532 01:06:24,200 --> 01:06:21,300 attend yeah the websites my research 1533 01:06:29,780 --> 01:06:24,210 website is organ lab org 1534 01:06:31,640 --> 01:06:29,790 oh are gon e and the name of my 1535 01:06:34,280 --> 01:06:31,650 laboratory is the Oregon biophysical 1536 01:06:37,670 --> 01:06:34,290 research lab we might have seminars 1537 01:06:39,740 --> 01:06:37,680 maybe a webinar which would outreach to 1538 01:06:42,620 --> 01:06:39,750 a lot more people or at least something 1539 01:06:45,710 --> 01:06:42,630 along those lines there's a web link on 1540 01:06:48,260 --> 01:06:45,720 the oregon lab dot org website on events 1541 01:06:51,860 --> 01:06:48,270 that people can consult but it better 1542 01:06:53,870 --> 01:06:51,870 that they get on our email list where we 1543 01:06:55,940 --> 01:06:53,880 send out these notifications from time 1544 01:06:57,890 --> 01:06:55,950 to time we have a book selling an 1545 01:07:00,140 --> 01:06:57,900 instrument selling website which is how 1546 01:07:05,080 --> 01:07:00,150 I pay the bills and that's natural 1547 01:07:06,940 --> 01:07:05,090 energy works dotnet natural energy works 1548 01:07:10,859 --> 01:07:06,950 net 1549 01:07:14,049 --> 01:07:10,869 and gosh I think the two books of mine I 1550 01:07:16,269 --> 01:07:14,059 would most recommend now and which are 1551 01:07:20,319 --> 01:07:16,279 the two most popular ones is the Oregon 1552 01:07:23,500 --> 01:07:20,329 accumulator handbook and the dynamic 1553 01:07:25,930 --> 01:07:23,510 ether of cosmic space those two books I 1554 01:07:29,140 --> 01:07:25,940 think cover a tremendous territory on 1555 01:07:30,670 --> 01:07:29,150 this new energy research that I believe 1556 01:07:31,109 --> 01:07:30,680 it's going to change the world for the 1557 01:07:33,730 --> 01:07:31,119 better 1558 01:07:37,450 --> 01:07:33,740 mm-hmm yes they are a great one-two 1559 01:07:38,980 --> 01:07:37,460 punch of ether and Oregon and thanks for 1560 01:07:42,160 --> 01:07:38,990 sending them out and for the time today 1561 01:07:44,170 --> 01:07:42,170 I am honored to have spent a little bit 1562 01:07:45,940 --> 01:07:44,180 of time picking your brain and I wish 1563 01:07:48,190 --> 01:07:45,950 you the best man thanks again and keep 1564 01:07:51,490 --> 01:07:48,200 doing what you do well thank you very 1565 01:07:54,370 --> 01:07:51,500 much for having me Greg and we'll look 1566 01:07:57,160 --> 01:07:54,380 forward to seeing this on the pod for 1567 01:08:02,259 --> 01:07:57,170 sure Cheers you too bye-bye 1568 01:08:06,309 --> 01:08:02,269 and once again boom goes the dynamite 1569 01:08:09,370 --> 01:08:06,319 James de Mayo doing what a James de Mayo 1570 01:08:11,740 --> 01:08:09,380 does best I have been trying to get this 1571 01:08:13,630 --> 01:08:11,750 interview for a long time now because 1572 01:08:15,880 --> 01:08:13,640 there seems to only be a few good 1573 01:08:18,820 --> 01:08:15,890 options for public speakers when it 1574 01:08:20,320 --> 01:08:18,830 comes to Reich's work especially ones 1575 01:08:23,769 --> 01:08:20,330 who have tested these things out 1576 01:08:26,079 --> 01:08:23,779 experimentally firsthand if you want to 1577 01:08:27,689 --> 01:08:26,089 hear more on the UFO side of Reich's 1578 01:08:30,729 --> 01:08:27,699 work which is definitely fascinating 1579 01:08:33,160 --> 01:08:30,739 check out an older show I did with Peter 1580 01:08:36,370 --> 01:08:33,170 Robbins because it makes a nice 1581 01:08:38,769 --> 01:08:36,380 compliment to this one and honestly in 1582 01:08:42,039 --> 01:08:38,779 both cases the conversation does drift 1583 01:08:44,050 --> 01:08:42,049 into sexuality particularly the sex 1584 01:08:47,019 --> 01:08:44,060 repressed culture that we live in and 1585 01:08:48,820 --> 01:08:47,029 how it affects children and it kind of 1586 01:08:50,979 --> 01:08:48,830 makes sense because if this energy is 1587 01:08:53,490 --> 01:08:50,989 connected to sexuality you would expect 1588 01:08:57,129 --> 01:08:53,500 there to be some kind of peak or 1589 01:09:00,399 --> 01:08:57,139 increase in it during the years of 1590 01:09:04,809 --> 01:09:00,409 puberty and maybe our sex repressed 1591 01:09:07,539 --> 01:09:04,819 culture nerfs that energy and I could 1592 01:09:10,599 --> 01:09:07,549 see an angle where it's very important 1593 01:09:13,720 --> 01:09:10,609 to manage and cultivate that energy 1594 01:09:15,459 --> 01:09:13,730 during those years of puberty because 1595 01:09:17,829 --> 01:09:15,469 maybe that has effects for the rest of 1596 01:09:20,169 --> 01:09:17,839 your life and we're talking about how 1597 01:09:22,379 --> 01:09:20,179 Oregon seems to be tied to help maybe 1598 01:09:25,180 --> 01:09:22,389 it's tied to the immune system somehow 1599 01:09:27,490 --> 01:09:25,190 the body and these energy systems is 1600 01:09:30,490 --> 01:09:27,500 very holistic everything's not so 1601 01:09:32,620 --> 01:09:30,500 compartmentalized so if this is an 1602 01:09:35,919 --> 01:09:32,630 energy stream that comes through humans 1603 01:09:39,490 --> 01:09:35,929 and it is tie to sexuality maybe it's 1604 01:09:41,800 --> 01:09:39,500 worth the mention it is thorny stuff but 1605 01:09:43,689 --> 01:09:41,810 Oregon is called Oregon because Reich 1606 01:09:46,809 --> 01:09:43,699 thought it was somehow connected to the 1607 01:09:49,120 --> 01:09:46,819 orgasm and one has to admit the orgasm 1608 01:09:51,879 --> 01:09:49,130 is a weird thing it's a pretty 1609 01:09:55,300 --> 01:09:51,889 unparalleled feeling and I don't think 1610 01:09:57,189 --> 01:09:55,310 we have a sufficient explanation maybe 1611 01:10:00,160 --> 01:09:57,199 it is a mechanism that lets a little 1612 01:10:03,580 --> 01:10:00,170 more of that energy from the unseen side 1613 01:10:06,669 --> 01:10:03,590 of reality in and maybe that entangles 1614 01:10:09,760 --> 01:10:06,679 with our physical bodies and that's 1615 01:10:11,170 --> 01:10:09,770 where we get that jolt but you know sex 1616 01:10:13,840 --> 01:10:11,180 is often considered 1617 01:10:15,880 --> 01:10:13,850 mechanism for altered states or higher 1618 01:10:18,430 --> 01:10:15,890 levels of consciousness with Tantra and 1619 01:10:20,950 --> 01:10:18,440 all that so I don't find this shocking 1620 01:10:24,430 --> 01:10:20,960 or unusual that interviews about right 1621 01:10:26,200 --> 01:10:24,440 get to these places but number one it's 1622 01:10:29,590 --> 01:10:26,210 not the most interesting part of the 1623 01:10:32,290 --> 01:10:29,600 work to me and number two we've had a 1624 01:10:34,990 --> 01:10:32,300 lot of guests segue into thorny topics 1625 01:10:36,250 --> 01:10:35,000 lately largely without being asked which 1626 01:10:38,650 --> 01:10:36,260 I don't care 1627 01:10:42,040 --> 01:10:38,660 guests are free to speak their mind on 1628 01:10:44,320 --> 01:10:42,050 this show but the issue is the audience 1629 01:10:46,930 --> 01:10:44,330 cannot hold me or the show accountable 1630 01:10:49,000 --> 01:10:46,940 for things I didn't ask about and didn't 1631 01:10:50,710 --> 01:10:49,010 plan to talk about that's the only thing 1632 01:10:53,710 --> 01:10:50,720 that bothers me don't write me any 1633 01:10:56,800 --> 01:10:53,720 letters about this stuff I felt like I 1634 01:10:58,060 --> 01:10:56,810 was on the ropes for a lot of 2019 and 1635 01:11:01,420 --> 01:10:58,070 I'm over it 1636 01:11:04,210 --> 01:11:01,430 none of that in 2020 honestly we've been 1637 01:11:07,060 --> 01:11:04,220 around too long to still be explaining 1638 01:11:08,800 --> 01:11:07,070 this but I had been trying to get this 1639 01:11:11,110 --> 01:11:08,810 interview with James for a long time 1640 01:11:14,320 --> 01:11:11,120 because the Oregon accumulator Handbook 1641 01:11:16,390 --> 01:11:14,330 is just so great it's honestly the 1642 01:11:18,580 --> 01:11:16,400 blueprints and his experiments with 1643 01:11:22,240 --> 01:11:18,590 cloud busters are also pretty damn 1644 01:11:24,970 --> 01:11:22,250 credible and oh yeah he's also written a 1645 01:11:26,470 --> 01:11:24,980 new book on ether physics I mean come on 1646 01:11:29,290 --> 01:11:26,480 people this is some of the most exciting 1647 01:11:31,270 --> 01:11:29,300 stuff to me right now I do think the 1648 01:11:33,400 --> 01:11:31,280 world is changing and this stuff is 1649 01:11:35,980 --> 01:11:33,410 gonna have to come out and I want to be 1650 01:11:38,800 --> 01:11:35,990 ahead of the game I want us to all 1651 01:11:42,070 --> 01:11:38,810 understand that yes this is real and if 1652 01:11:43,810 --> 01:11:42,080 we can get past the wandering and if you 1653 01:11:46,270 --> 01:11:43,820 were to get the handbook you could build 1654 01:11:49,600 --> 01:11:46,280 your own devices no electrical 1655 01:11:52,330 --> 01:11:49,610 components required right while 1656 01:11:53,980 --> 01:11:52,340 everybody else is stuck in denial are 1657 01:11:59,320 --> 01:11:53,990 still trying to wrap their heads around 1658 01:12:01,900 --> 01:11:59,330 these things I want us to understand so 1659 01:12:03,340 --> 01:12:01,910 that's what's important to me the rest 1660 01:12:05,740 --> 01:12:03,350 of these shows can talk about 1661 01:12:08,950 --> 01:12:05,750 impeachment and Russia gate and queuing 1662 01:12:11,800 --> 01:12:08,960 on I'm trying to work on a different 1663 01:12:12,930 --> 01:12:11,810 level of course today James wanted to 1664 01:12:15,610 --> 01:12:12,940 spend some time talking about 1665 01:12:17,170 --> 01:12:15,620 transgender men dominating sports and 1666 01:12:19,420 --> 01:12:17,180 children who are being manipulated into 1667 01:12:22,480 --> 01:12:19,430 gender transformations through hormones 1668 01:12:24,640 --> 01:12:22,490 or surgeries or whatever and JK 1669 01:12:27,520 --> 01:12:24,650 Rowling's Twitter censorship 1670 01:12:30,160 --> 01:12:27,530 fine I don't really see those as major 1671 01:12:31,750 --> 01:12:30,170 issues that affect a ton of people I 1672 01:12:35,050 --> 01:12:31,760 mean this other stuff affects everybody 1673 01:12:38,470 --> 01:12:35,060 but there's probably something in it 1674 01:12:41,560 --> 01:12:38,480 that is definitely agenda driven it's 1675 01:12:43,600 --> 01:12:41,570 just not a priority to me definitely not 1676 01:12:46,270 --> 01:12:43,610 as high on the list as natural 1677 01:12:49,390 --> 01:12:46,280 terraforming rods that attract UFOs and 1678 01:12:51,670 --> 01:12:49,400 blueprints to healing boxes but James 1679 01:12:53,650 --> 01:12:51,680 did say afterwards that he appreciated 1680 01:12:55,510 --> 01:12:53,660 the freedom to speak openly and if I am 1681 01:12:57,940 --> 01:12:55,520 gonna run a show our guests are pretty 1682 01:13:00,670 --> 01:12:57,950 much allowed to go off-topic into these 1683 01:13:03,130 --> 01:13:00,680 sorts of things you're not going to be 1684 01:13:06,520 --> 01:13:03,140 able to hang on every word or even every 1685 01:13:09,190 --> 01:13:06,530 guest if your love for THC is gonna be 1686 01:13:11,610 --> 01:13:09,200 that fragile you might as well stop 1687 01:13:15,340 --> 01:13:11,620 listening now because you're going to be 1688 01:13:17,920 --> 01:13:15,350 rattled sooner than later it's just the 1689 01:13:21,970 --> 01:13:17,930 nature of this game this is a show for 1690 01:13:23,770 --> 01:13:21,980 people with more sense than that if you 1691 01:13:24,430 --> 01:13:23,780 know what I mean you'll take it as a 1692 01:13:26,800 --> 01:13:24,440 compliment 1693 01:13:29,920 --> 01:13:26,810 but I did like the majority of the show 1694 01:13:32,290 --> 01:13:29,930 today I kind of wanted to get more into 1695 01:13:34,270 --> 01:13:32,300 the cosmic ether material but it's 1696 01:13:36,430 --> 01:13:34,280 James's experiments that are the most 1697 01:13:38,530 --> 01:13:36,440 unique material he has and so I wanted 1698 01:13:41,380 --> 01:13:38,540 to give that as much time as it needed 1699 01:13:42,430 --> 01:13:41,390 and the Plus show we did focus more on 1700 01:13:46,450 --> 01:13:42,440 the cloudbuster 1701 01:13:48,550 --> 01:13:46,460 and it definitely blows my mind the man 1702 01:13:50,770 --> 01:13:48,560 made it rain three times in three 1703 01:13:54,870 --> 01:13:50,780 different geographical areas and he made 1704 01:13:58,150 --> 01:13:54,880 lakes and the goddamn Sahara that's nuts 1705 01:14:01,090 --> 01:13:58,160 but between James DeMaio and Trevor 1706 01:14:04,090 --> 01:14:01,100 James constable who also did this I'm 1707 01:14:05,530 --> 01:14:04,100 pretty damn convinced a couple of the 1708 01:14:08,140 --> 01:14:05,540 things we talked about in the plush show 1709 01:14:10,480 --> 01:14:08,150 would be the deadly organ energy the 1710 01:14:14,230 --> 01:14:10,490 sort of inverse energy that is 1711 01:14:16,600 --> 01:14:14,240 radioactive that comes into play we also 1712 01:14:19,090 --> 01:14:16,610 talked about the garden seed charger 1713 01:14:20,650 --> 01:14:19,100 planter box I mean if this stuff helps 1714 01:14:22,300 --> 01:14:20,660 seeds germinate why aren't we making 1715 01:14:25,390 --> 01:14:22,310 planter boxes out of it and getting 1716 01:14:28,180 --> 01:14:25,400 better yields on our crops but we also 1717 01:14:31,990 --> 01:14:28,190 talked about Oregon accumulators in our 1718 01:14:34,150 --> 01:14:32,000 highly charged electrostatic environment 1719 01:14:36,520 --> 01:14:34,160 these days the Wi-Fi signals the phone 1720 01:14:38,000 --> 01:14:36,530 signals this is stuff Reich didn't 1721 01:14:40,459 --> 01:14:38,010 really consider when working 1722 01:14:43,879 --> 01:14:40,469 with Oregon and then we talked about the 1723 01:14:46,640 --> 01:14:43,889 Oregon motor James's lightbulb study and 1724 01:14:49,279 --> 01:14:46,650 which ones are the healthiest eclipses 1725 01:14:52,459 --> 01:14:49,289 and energy and the connections there and 1726 01:14:55,609 --> 01:14:52,469 a couple of the things in the realm of 1727 01:14:56,419 --> 01:14:55,619 cosmic ether so I'm just like to get 1728 01:14:59,209 --> 01:14:56,429 this one out 1729 01:15:01,520 --> 01:14:59,219 please let James know you appreciate his 1730 01:15:04,250 --> 01:15:01,530 contribution to the Secret Sciences if 1731 01:15:06,020 --> 01:15:04,260 you do you know I think one of the big 1732 01:15:08,990 --> 01:15:06,030 problems in this area is that there's so 1733 01:15:10,279 --> 01:15:09,000 many different terms the mainstream says 1734 01:15:12,680 --> 01:15:10,289 there's nothing there so when 1735 01:15:15,109 --> 01:15:12,690 half-a-dozen people discover it they all 1736 01:15:17,240 --> 01:15:15,119 give this energy a different name is it 1737 01:15:21,109 --> 01:15:17,250 Oregon is it ether are those the same 1738 01:15:23,600 --> 01:15:21,119 thing I'm still not 100% but these 1739 01:15:26,299 --> 01:15:23,610 applications are exciting to me it's my 1740 01:15:28,520 --> 01:15:26,309 faith in these modalities that makes me 1741 01:15:31,520 --> 01:15:28,530 more open to even something like taht 1742 01:15:34,819 --> 01:15:31,530 area because a lot of these ether based 1743 01:15:39,259 --> 01:15:34,829 or over unity or electrogravitic devices 1744 01:15:41,060 --> 01:15:39,269 a lot of them are lo-fi or analog I mean 1745 01:15:43,129 --> 01:15:41,070 an Oregon accumulator again doesn't even 1746 01:15:44,799 --> 01:15:43,139 need to be plugged in so when there's a 1747 01:15:48,890 --> 01:15:44,809 theory out there that a civilization 1748 01:15:52,040 --> 01:15:48,900 used steeples or architecture to well up 1749 01:15:55,100 --> 01:15:52,050 this energy well I think that's totally 1750 01:15:56,419 --> 01:15:55,110 possible also you might have noticed 1751 01:15:58,910 --> 01:15:56,429 that I didn't ask him anything about 1752 01:16:00,319 --> 01:15:58,920 orgonite and that's because James has 1753 01:16:03,229 --> 01:16:00,329 said over and over again that he doesn't 1754 01:16:05,450 --> 01:16:03,239 think orgonite is a thing he doesn't 1755 01:16:07,399 --> 01:16:05,460 like these pendants and these orgonite 1756 01:16:09,140 --> 01:16:07,409 paperweights that people make and place 1757 01:16:12,500 --> 01:16:09,150 around their home he doesn't think that 1758 01:16:14,990 --> 01:16:12,510 they do anything so I figured I could 1759 01:16:17,779 --> 01:16:15,000 just wait till now and then tell you 1760 01:16:19,970 --> 01:16:17,789 that but I would say of all the cool 1761 01:16:22,220 --> 01:16:19,980 [\h__\h] that listeners have made or sent to 1762 01:16:24,950 --> 01:16:22,230 me over the years orgonite is the number 1763 01:16:27,229 --> 01:16:24,960 one thing you'll see a pendant that I 1764 01:16:29,240 --> 01:16:27,239 wear that's orgonite I have this little 1765 01:16:31,009 --> 01:16:29,250 thing on my microphone that you can see 1766 01:16:33,529 --> 01:16:31,019 in the joint session that's orgonite 1767 01:16:36,680 --> 01:16:33,539 little pyramids all over the office 1768 01:16:38,209 --> 01:16:36,690 I appreciate these gifts I don't know if 1769 01:16:40,759 --> 01:16:38,219 they do anything but they remind me of 1770 01:16:43,370 --> 01:16:40,769 Reich's work anyway and so I'm into it 1771 01:16:45,700 --> 01:16:43,380 and that does remind me if you have your 1772 01:16:48,350 --> 01:16:45,710 own thing going on if you are a 1773 01:16:50,830 --> 01:16:48,360 craftsman of some kind or you sell a 1774 01:16:54,459 --> 01:16:50,840 product or you're 1775 01:16:57,910 --> 01:16:54,469 an artisan of some particular discipline 1776 01:17:00,040 --> 01:16:57,920 or craft and you want THC plus well hit 1777 01:17:02,200 --> 01:17:00,050 me up maybe we can barter maybe we can 1778 01:17:04,629 --> 01:17:02,210 cut out that money middleman and just do 1779 01:17:06,669 --> 01:17:04,639 a trade for trade I like all kinds of 1780 01:17:11,500 --> 01:17:06,679 interesting stuff and I definitely 1781 01:17:13,540 --> 01:17:11,510 appreciate artists and people who make 1782 01:17:16,689 --> 01:17:13,550 things by hand I find it impressive 1783 01:17:18,640 --> 01:17:16,699 especially in 2020 just throwing that 1784 01:17:20,439 --> 01:17:18,650 out there and also speaking of the joint 1785 01:17:25,270 --> 01:17:20,449 session I guess this month we'll do it 1786 01:17:28,120 --> 01:17:25,280 on the 20th it's a Monday and man I was 1787 01:17:31,149 --> 01:17:28,130 pretty tired and so kind of sick on the 1788 01:17:33,100 --> 01:17:31,159 last one I guess it worked out that it 1789 01:17:34,600 --> 01:17:33,110 was kind of short and a lot of lurkers 1790 01:17:37,180 --> 01:17:34,610 out there didn't really want to call in 1791 01:17:39,820 --> 01:17:37,190 and talk to me over a hundred people 1792 01:17:42,550 --> 01:17:39,830 listening but only a couple wanted to 1793 01:17:44,350 --> 01:17:42,560 talk so let's do this thing 1794 01:17:48,250 --> 01:17:44,360 don't be nervous now you know we're all 1795 01:17:50,080 --> 01:17:48,260 friends here but we'll see and with that 1796 01:17:51,399 --> 01:17:50,090 I'm getting out of here I hope we all 1797 01:17:53,830 --> 01:17:51,409 learned some stuff today 1798 01:17:55,660 --> 01:17:53,840 big thanks to James for his time and his 1799 01:17:58,209 --> 01:17:55,670 work I've done my part 1800 01:18:00,790 --> 01:17:58,219 your move ether deniers fake physics 1801 01:18:06,239 --> 01:18:00,800 suppliers and the whole damn scientific 1802 01:18:10,729 --> 01:18:06,249 cabal of liars your [\h__\h] move 1803 01:18:16,049 --> 01:18:10,739 and they built a little empire out of 1804 01:18:21,810 --> 01:18:16,059 some crazy garbage called the blood on 1805 01:18:25,080 --> 01:18:21,820 the exploited working-class but they've 1806 01:18:28,709 --> 01:18:25,090 overcome their shyness 1807 01:18:36,569 --> 01:18:28,719 now we're calling them your highness and 1808 01:18:39,770 --> 01:18:36,579 the world screams save me THC they 1809 01:18:44,629 --> 01:18:39,780 destroyed the bonds of friendship and 1810 01:18:49,910 --> 01:18:44,639 respect between the only people left 1811 01:18:55,140 --> 01:18:49,920 who'd even look them in the eye 1812 01:18:59,279 --> 01:18:55,150 now they laugh and make a fortune of the 1813 01:19:03,290 --> 01:18:59,289 same ones that they torture and a world 1814 01:19:12,490 --> 01:19:03,300 screams save me THC 1815 01:19:35,810 --> 01:19:22,280 mr. Jesus away now we are the only one 1816 01:19:40,990 --> 01:19:35,820 who can tell me if it's true - they 1817 01:19:44,890 --> 01:19:41,000 built a little Empire out of some crazy 1818 01:19:49,020 --> 01:19:44,900 garbage called the blood of the 1819 01:19:54,130 --> 01:19:49,030 exploited working class 1820 01:19:58,030 --> 01:19:54,140 but they've overcome their shyness now 1821 01:20:02,500 --> 01:19:58,040 we're calling him your highness and the 1822 01:20:06,660 --> 01:20:02,510 world screams save me THC